anyone with a 24v swap on e30 m3 swap from a power steering rack to manual steering?

[m3j0n]

thinking about doing that to lighten up the front of the car, get rid of the lines and reservoir for less maintenance, add more clearance, and go for a cleaner look.

[davvik]

I'm interested in doing this too. I don't know much about steering/suspension systems though. This would be new for me. I've never owned a car without power steering.

I found this thread while looking:

http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107330

It's not a rack swap but it allows you to eliminate the power steering with a fairly simple mod. I'm just not sure how I feel about doing this on my daily driver.

[DesertBMW]

I did this. And I don't like it. Reason is steering is too stiff at parking speed, but then too light and touchy at high speeds. The fluid in the rack muffles out the touchy steering at highway speeds and reduces feedback.

[ArtClassShank]

I have no PS on my 24v. Don't miss PS at all. I like the feedback, and the workout. I'm running OEM wheels and tires, so my steering isn't that heavy. Very manageable for me and I'm not a big guy.

[franky2fingaz]

I have no PS on my 24v. Don't miss PS at all. I like the feedback, and the workout. I'm running OEM wheels and tires, so my steering isn't that heavy. Very manageable for me and I'm not a big guy.

I just ordered my bypass block for my M3 rack going into an 89 24v sedan .... How does the set-up do on bumps pointing strait and mid-corner? is there a lot of bump-steer?

I've driven cars/trucks in the past without p/s but never with so much caster...

[ArtClassShank]

I just ordered my bypass block for my M3 rack going into an 89 24v sedan .... How does the set-up do on bumps pointing strait and mid-corner? is there a lot of bump-steer?

I've driven cars/trucks in the past without p/s but never with so much caster...

There can be some bump steer in a bumpy corner. I've only ever noticed it significantly when its a "hole" sort of road imperfection. Hasn't ever upset the car in a corner.

[dustyperez]

I deleted mine as well. You get more feedback for sure. Its only hard if your at a dead stop. Even a little movement makes it easy again. The condor block off is perfect. I dont regret it

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[meanEG]

I deleted mine as well. You get more feedback for sure. Its only hard if your at a dead stop. Even a little movement makes it easy again. The condor block off is perfect. I dont regret it

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were these block offs done to a stock rack, or e36 rack. this is what the op is concerned with i think. less turn lock to lock will be harder to turn with out power assist.

[dustyperez]

Thats true. Prolly need the stock rack. Its like 4.5 turns and the e36 is like 2.9 or 3.2? So that could make it suck

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[m3j0n]

more details on the condor block off?

[franky2fingaz]

It's a bypass block that lets fluid swap from one side to the other when you turn. You still have to fill the rack with ATF if it was originally hydro-assist

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=130389

[Mistawall]

i didnt delete mt power steering but all the fluid leaked out and i didnt refill it. i actually liked it. then my dad put fluid back in and it felt all foreign idk im still wish washy

[JdmEuroNorth]

It's a bypass block that lets fluid swap from one side to the other when you turn. You still have to fill the rack with ATF if it was originally hydro-assist

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=130389

I've installed this part, haven't driven the car yet but I filled the system with fluid using a cut stock p/s hose, overfilled then quickly installed the block to minimize air then semi-bled the system as best as you can.

I can turn the steering wheel with 2 fingers sitting on a rough concrete floor, I've done this on multiple vehicles, even front wheel drive and I have no regrets on any of them.