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  • e30ryan///m3
    Wrencher
    • Dec 2005
    • 249

    #1

    Transmission brace???

    Hi guys,
    I am almost ready to mount the s50 into my e30 m3. One thing I am having trouble with is the e30 m3 transmission brace doesn't seem to fit at all with the e36 m3 transmission. I have searched for this and can't find anything that sais I shouldn't be using the stock e30 transmission brace???? Was the transmission brace in the e30 m3 different? I think I'm going crazy! If anybody has run into this please let me know.

    Thanks,
    Ryan
    1988 M3 (Diamondshwartz)
    2004 M3 (SilverGray)

  • matt
    No R3VLimiter
    • Oct 2003
    • 3731

    #2
    You have the brace backwards???

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    • Jason89i
      E30 Modder
      • Sep 2004
      • 875

      #3
      Originally posted by e30ryan///m3
      Hi guys,
      ........ is the e30 m3 transmission brace doesn't seem to fit at all with the e36 m3 transmission. I have searched for this and can't find anything that sais I shouldn't be using the stock e30 transmission brace???? .....
      Thanks,
      Ryan
      ryan - the e30 m3 and 325's have different parts. the m3 has an aluminum trans support, hte 325 has a stamped steel one. cheers, jason

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      • e30ryan///m3
        Wrencher
        • Dec 2005
        • 249

        #4
        I have the ZF transmission for the swap and I've heard that you have to fab up a cusom brace for the ZF tanny to work? Does anybody know if I can use a stock part so that I don'thave to fab up a custom brace? does anybody know if the stock e36 tranny brace for a ZF transmission will work in an with the s50 swap in an e30 m3???? I know that people use the getrag tranny with the stock e36 trans brace but why is the ZF trans so different???? Thanks for any help!!!


        Ryan
        1988 M3 (Diamondshwartz)
        2004 M3 (SilverGray)

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        • Jason89i
          E30 Modder
          • Sep 2004
          • 875

          #5
          Originally posted by e30ryan///m3
          I have the ZF transmission for the swap and I've heard that you have to fab up a cusom brace for the ZF tanny to work? .........Ryan
          nope. just use the e30 325 tranny brace. will work with the e36 325/316 getrag or the e36m3 zf. if your using the zf, dont forget the zf shift carrier, shift linkage.

          custom e30 325 bracket only needed for the e30 getrag.
          cheers, jason

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          • MR 325
            Moderator
            • Oct 2003
            • 37826

            #6
            Originally posted by Jason89i
            custom e30 325 bracket only needed for the e30 getrag.
            cheers, jason
            What exactly needs to be done to the bracket to run the E30 tranny with a 24v swap?
            BimmerHeads
            Classic BMW Specialists
            Santa Clarita, CA

            www.BimmerHeads.com

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            • 325Projectz
              E30 Mastermind
              • Jan 2005
              • 1956

              #7
              I haven't done it myself but some say just run a motor mount on the drivers side for the tranny.

              Trent, i think is the person you want to talk to.
              91 m3

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              • Jason89i
                E30 Modder
                • Sep 2004
                • 875

                #8
                Originally posted by MR 325
                What exactly needs to be done to the bracket to run the E30 tranny with a 24v swap?
                the e30 getrag mounts at a 10deg +/- different angle. i kept the body/support mounting points and changed the trans/support mounting points. plasma cutter, welder. moved the passenger side mounting point down about 3/4" and move the other up. i looked for pics but couldnt find any. do a search, theres a lot of good info out there.



                Originally posted by 325Projectz
                I haven't done it myself but some say just run a motor mount on the drivers side for the tranny..
                i suppose you could try this, however.....you want to keep the transmission ouput "in line" with the diff. if the trans output is not in line (or raised) it will cause undue stress on the driveshaft.

                cheers, jason
                Last edited by Jason89i; 02-05-2007, 04:04 AM.

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                • 325Projectz
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Jan 2005
                  • 1956

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Jason89i
                  i suppose you could try this, however.....you want to keep the transmission ouput "in line" with the diff. if the trans output is not in line (or raised) it will cause undue stress on the driveshaft.
                  I wouldn't try this, its too easy to make a bracket. I made a bracket on my last swap and used a zf on my m3.

                  But, they say it works, and this is r3v.
                  91 m3

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                  • Jason89i
                    E30 Modder
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 875

                    #10
                    Originally posted by 325Projectz
                    I haven't done it myself but some say ........
                    Originally posted by 325Projectz
                    I wouldn't try this, ........
                    wait a minute. you brought it up.

                    if its not a viable option, dont bring it up.

                    cheers, jason

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                    • 325Projectz
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Jan 2005
                      • 1956

                      #11
                      Its not a matter of me not using it, its options available to others. Its like some perfer e30 m3 5 lug, some will run with e36 suspension. Same deal.

                      Its options and opinions.

                      cheers, sean
                      Last edited by 325Projectz; 02-05-2007, 12:51 PM.
                      91 m3

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                      • MR 325
                        Moderator
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 37826

                        #12
                        I'll probably end up giving the motor mount thing a whirl, see how it works. If not I'll just make something.
                        BimmerHeads
                        Classic BMW Specialists
                        Santa Clarita, CA

                        www.BimmerHeads.com

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                        • Lof8
                          R3VLimited
                          • Oct 2006
                          • 2827

                          #13
                          Originally posted by MR 325
                          I'll probably end up giving the motor mount thing a whirl, see how it works. If not I'll just make something.
                          Let us know what you think about these options when you test 'em out.
                          thanks
                          S50'd

                          Originally posted by TDE30
                          What is this faggy shit I have happened upon?
                          Originally posted by slammin.e28
                          I can always live in a M3. Can't M3 a house.

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                          • e30ryan///m3
                            Wrencher
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 249

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Jason89i
                            nope. just use the e30 325 tranny brace. will work with the e36 325/316 getrag or the e36m3 zf. if your using the zf, dont forget the zf shift carrier, shift linkage.

                            custom e30 325 bracket only needed for the e30 getrag.
                            cheers, jason
                            For my ZF tranny which of the following numbers do I need? Also will the e30 m3 shifter work with the ZF trans? or do I need an e36 m3 shifter as well?

                            Thanks,
                            Ryan
                            1988 M3 (Diamondshwartz)
                            2004 M3 (SilverGray)

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                            • FredK
                              R3V OG
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 14745

                              #15
                              You'll need 1, 2, 3, 7, 9, (4) of 10 and (2) of 11, 12, 15. The stock E36 M3 shifter SUCKS. Get an MZ4 or MZ3 shift lever and bend it. You'll need the rubber boot from the E30 (part number 8 in the diagram), NOT the E36. The E36 rubber boot is too big, as I found out.
                              Last edited by FredK; 02-23-2007, 07:11 AM. Reason: forgot a part

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