m50 stalling at idle

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  • EtaSport
    R3VLimited
    • Oct 2003
    • 2853

    #1

    m50 stalling at idle

    So twice now after the car is fully warmed up Ive come to a stop and the car has died when pushing the clutch in. Its had some idle searching problems ever since I put it in. Much like an m20 with anything other than a 173 ecu where it keeps going down then bumps back up.

    After it dies both times I've started it back up and it quits again. The second time I give it some gas an let it idle down slow and it will idle okay, still not great.

    I think there may be an o2 problem which may or may not be part of this mess because I had a lambda code present as well as a knock sensor code. Is a bum o2 sensor known to cause issues like these?
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  • Brew
    No R3VLimiter
    • Oct 2003
    • 3060

    #2
    Originally posted by EtaSport
    Is a bum o2 sensor known to cause issues like these?
    For sure. I'd just throw a new one in, especially since you have a code.
    '91 318is
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    • matt
      No R3VLimiter
      • Oct 2003
      • 3731

      #3
      Sounds like a vaccum leak.

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      • FredK
        R3V OG
        • Oct 2003
        • 14752

        #4
        I'm having this same problem with my m42 right now, it started just a few days ago.

        I don't understand why it'd be the O2 sensor; the engine doesn't go into closed loop operation until it's pretty warm, and my troubles are pretty much when the car is stone cold. Any body else?

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        • quan325i
          Advanced Member
          • Dec 2003
          • 178

          #5
          It sounds like you have a leak. When it's cold, rubber tends to shrink exposing vacuum leak. Check your air boot near the AFM.

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          • SchnellerVert
            No R3VLimiter
            • Sep 2005
            • 3948

            #6
            ICV dirty. They are a pia to get to. Quick check is your MAS unplug it see if it doesn't shut down. Cone filter? Dirty sensor.

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            • FredK
              R3V OG
              • Oct 2003
              • 14752

              #7
              Gonna have to bust out the propane! Thanks guys.

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              • Brew
                No R3VLimiter
                • Oct 2003
                • 3060

                #8
                Idle control valve could be the culprit in your case Fred.
                I would try cleaning it out thoroughly with some carb or brake cleaner.
                '91 318is
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                • trent

                  #9
                  IF you are running a LTW flywheel this could also happen just because the chip can't compensate for the mass. My car with the 8lber dies about once a day...no big deal.

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                  • FredK
                    R3V OG
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 14752

                    #10
                    This M42 is pissing me off. My car's such a POS but I'm thinking of doing an M50 swap just for fun. Personally I'm using a HMF flywheel. Heavy Mo' Fuggin flywheel. Drop it on your toe, and you might have to amputate.

                    I'll try the ICV.

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                    • EtaSport
                      R3VLimited
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 2853

                      #11
                      It can't be a leak because it only happens so often. Its usually only after a long highway drive and coming to a stop. Then if I blip the throttle and the rpms want to come down, it just keeps going til it cuts off.

                      Stock s50 dual mass flywheel, so no problems there. I am thinking it could be the ICV or also the hfm because I do have an oiled filter. I want to get the o2 sensor squared away though so that I have no codes.

                      My roomates e30m50 had some bouncing idle whenever his o2 sensor flashed a code.
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                      • SchnellerVert
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Sep 2005
                        • 3948

                        #12
                        Did you disconnect the HFM? Drive it in the same way and see what it does. There is an HFM cleaner out there now that cleans the element.

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                        • Mot
                          45 toting redneck
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 4018

                          #13
                          Mine used to stall at idle because the battery was poorly grounded and the dme wasn't getting a clean constant 12v. The motor would slowly rev down, then sputter and die.

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                          • SchnellerVert
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 3948

                            #14
                            Weather was rough out your way did you get it ironed out?

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                            • bmws50b30
                              E30 Enthusiast
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 1151

                              #15
                              Originally posted by trent
                              IF you are running a LTW flywheel this could also happen just because the chip can't compensate for the mass. My car with the 8lber dies about once a day...no big deal.
                              i have this problem but never thought it would be flywheel realated. it did start after i replaced my tranny and installed JB racing flywheel.

                              my car would stall coming to a stop, after i shift to neutral. i would pop the clutch and it starts right up. i still have this problem but i haven't get the chance to clean the icv yet. my car would stall 3-5 time a day.

                              1991 330is


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