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  • Beej '86 325es
    R3VLimited
    • Feb 2004
    • 2639

    #1

    Shift carrier mis-alignment

    Got the engine sitting in there pretty solid now. Doug's modified tranny brace for the 260 transmission helped out a lot. Now I've got an issue that others have had as well, but I haven't seen any real resolution. Sounds like some people bent the shifter...but how?

    Is your shifter carrier this far off when using the 260 tranny? The 2nd picture shows how far it can go before it will hit the console (not far).





    Couple of preview pictures of the engine mounted...


    -Brandon
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  • Jordan
    R3V OG
    • Oct 2003
    • 12907

    #2
    You've done something wrong.
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    • BigD
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Jul 2006
      • 1085

      #3
      Hey anyone with this setup try using the E36 carrier installed upside down? I know in the E30 chassis, it places the shifter a bit to the right (since I have one). So if you install it upside down, it should put the shifter a bit to the left, which would help you Getrag guys...

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      • gazellebeigem3
        No R3VLimiter
        • Jun 2005
        • 3712

        #4
        I havent the foggiest. I am using the same setup and the only thing i had to bend was the selector rod. Even at that, it was only about 10 degrees. Id look over everything again, just make sure you didnt miss something.

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        • Beej '86 325es
          R3VLimited
          • Feb 2004
          • 2639

          #5
          Originally posted by gazellebeigem3
          I havent the foggiest. I am using the same setup and the only thing i had to bend was the selector rod. Even at that, it was only about 10 degrees. Id look over everything again, just make sure you didnt miss something.
          I read someone else "twisted" the selector rod also instead of cutting and welding. How'd you do it? Just a vise and vise grips?
          -Brandon
          '86 325es S50
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          '03 540i M-Sport (sold)
          '08 Jeep SRT-8 (sold)

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          • Beej '86 325es
            R3VLimited
            • Feb 2004
            • 2639

            #6
            Ok, think I got it working. I raised and dropped the engine several times trying to get it to set differently, but really with the alignment tabs on the motor mounts, and the way the transmission brace is designed, it's going to fall where it's going to fall. No change any time I lifted and dropped it.

            I think that the rubber bushing that connects the shift carrier to the transmission gives people the slop needed to make it work. I've got some of the UUC delrin carrier bushings and they're REALLY friggin' tight. With a little muscle I've got it positioned about where it should be. You can see how far the rear bushing-mount is deflected.







            -Brandon
            '86 325es S50
            '12 VW GTI Autobahn DSG
            '03 540i M-Sport (sold)
            '08 Jeep SRT-8 (sold)

            For sale:
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            • matt
              No R3VLimiter
              • Oct 2003
              • 3731

              #7
              Wrong transmission...

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              • Jordan
                R3V OG
                • Oct 2003
                • 12907

                #8
                Yeah... looking at the rear picture its obvious you have the engine mounted at the wrong angle, thus throwing the tranny off, or you are using the wrong transmission. Judging by the remains of a vibration dampener I can see (why didnt you remove that?) I'm guessing its a Getrag 260...

                You should use a e36 transmission.
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                • EtaSport
                  R3VLimited
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 2853

                  #9
                  Thats about where mine sits. Those trans bushings definitely wont give, it may be difficult to get it into 5th gear. Thats pretty much where the trans sits when you use the g260. It also makes it hard to get to the top bolt on the right side to remove the transmission. I may switch to an e36 trans, but i dunno yet.

                  *edit.. which carrier are you using? looks like the e36. I assume it came with the shift kit. It positions it too far to the right.
                  Old and improved:

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                  • gazellebeigem3
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 3712

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Beej '86 325es
                    I read someone else "twisted" the selector rod also instead of cutting and welding. How'd you do it? Just a vise and vise grips?
                    yeah. just bend to fit, but iirc it was 10 degrees or so.

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                    • PiercedE30
                      R3V Elite
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 4220

                      #11
                      Flip your shifter carrier over.
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                      • e30_kid89
                        E30 Addict
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 489

                        #12
                        ^^X2...Looks that that'll do the trick.

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                        • BDSax
                          Junkyard King
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 3593

                          #13
                          thats really weird. when i installed my shift linkage i put the shift arm in backwards and i couldnt shift into 5th but it was still alligned right. i flipped it over and it is still the same.

                          what tranny mounts are you using?

                          welding the selector rod is really easy.
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                          • Beej '86 325es
                            R3VLimited
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 2639

                            #14
                            Hey guys, thanks for the responses.

                            To answer some questions on what it is I'm running:

                            260 transmission, E30 carrier, IE urethane tranny bushings

                            Looking at the picture BigD posted, I don't think flipping over the carrier or using an E36 carrier would help the situation.

                            I've still got to bend the selector rod the 10 degrees so I can get it into 5th, I'm just not liking the amount of preload on the carrier.
                            -Brandon
                            '86 325es S50
                            '12 VW GTI Autobahn DSG
                            '03 540i M-Sport (sold)
                            '08 Jeep SRT-8 (sold)

                            For sale:
                            S50 TMS chip for Schricks

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                            • BDSax
                              Junkyard King
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 3593

                              #15
                              im using the same setup as you and mine lines up fine. doesnt make sense. what year tranny is that?
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