Vanos Solenoid question for the OBD2-OBD1 guys

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  • Jean
    Moderator
    • Aug 2006
    • 18228

    #1

    Vanos Solenoid question for the OBD2-OBD1 guys

    My m52 needs a vanos solenoid as it's missing it. Since I am converting to OBD1, do I need to get an M50 solenoid or will an M52 plug into the OBD1 m50 harness just fine?

    I can't seem to find a factual answer to this. What is the difference between m50/m52 vanos and it's solenoid?

    Thanks!
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  • hugh jass
    R3VLimited
    • Dec 2003
    • 2220

    #2
    i do believe the m50 solenoid has a female plug and the m52 solenoid has a male plug (or the other way around). the long and short of it is the m52 solenoid won't plug into the obd1 harness.
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    • madjurgen
      E30 Fanatic
      • May 2005
      • 1203

      #3
      doesnt the wiki say otherwise?

      As time went on, the factory developed the car each year, making it faster, more comfortable, and capable of handling at higher speeds.
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      • matt
        No R3VLimiter
        • Oct 2003
        • 3731

        #4
        Originally posted by hugh jass
        i do believe the m50 solenoid has a female plug and the m52 solenoid has a male plug (or the other way around). the long and short of it is the m52 solenoid won't plug into the obd1 harness.
        Not even close.

        They are 95% interchangeable. The only issue is that the cord on the OBDI unit is much longer (~12" vs ~4"). There is a part available to extend it, I can get the number at the shop tomorrow if you need it.

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        • Jean
          Moderator
          • Aug 2006
          • 18228

          #5
          Matt, please do.

          Is there any truth to this "You will need an M52 vanos solenoid. The early vanos systems were 3 positon the later ones were constanly variable."

          ?
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          • matt
            No R3VLimiter
            • Oct 2003
            • 3731

            #6
            Uhh, no. That's bullshit.

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            • e30serg
              E30 Addict
              • Dec 2006
              • 562

              #7
              They're referring to the early single vanos engines vs the later dual-vanos. The ones in our cars have 3 discrete positions, ( I think 3) and the later, dual vanos engines have infinitely variable positions.

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              • matt
                No R3VLimiter
                • Oct 2003
                • 3731

                #8
                M50 - no vanos
                M50TU - two position
                M52 - two position
                M52TU - infinitely variable

                The M52TU does have infinitely variable vanos, so I guess that quote meant M52TU but said M52.

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                • hugh jass
                  R3VLimited
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 2220

                  #9
                  Originally posted by matt
                  Not even close.

                  They are 95% interchangeable. The only issue is that the cord on the OBDI unit is much longer (~12" vs ~4"). There is a part available to extend it, I can get the number at the shop tomorrow if you need it.
                  i was thinking of the cam sensor not the vanos solenoid, my mistake.
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                  • Jean
                    Moderator
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 18228

                    #10
                    Originally posted by matt
                    M50 - no vanos
                    M50TU - two position
                    M52 - two position
                    M52TU - infinitely variable

                    The M52TU does have infinitely variable vanos, so I guess that quote meant M52TU but said M52.
                    Matt, so what solenoid would work on a 98 m52(or is that m52tu?) with obd1 harness?

                    Thanks.
                    Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                    OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                    • PiercedE30
                      R3V Elite
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 4220

                      #11
                      M52TU is dual vanos.
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                      • matt
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 3731

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Jean
                        Matt, so what solenoid would work on a 98 m52(or is that m52tu?) with obd1 harness?

                        Thanks.
                        The OBDI solenoid will make your life easier. Or the OBDII solenoid and 1x 12 52 2 274 971

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                        • BeirBrennerE30
                          R3VLimited
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 2740

                          #13
                          Originally posted by matt
                          The OBDI solenoid will make your life easier. Or the OBDII solenoid and 1x 12 52 2 274 971
                          this man speaks the truth in every post in this thread... listen and buy the obd1 solenoid
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                          • Jean
                            Moderator
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 18228

                            #14
                            Ok, so OBD1 solenoid it is. Great. Thank you!
                            Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                            OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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