S54 vs LS1 Swap for my E30...???

[garretvs]

If you really want to know what it takes to stuff an LSx engine into an E30, look here:

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=175197

[MIKe30]

if you're dead set on 400whp power go ls1.

[Bimmerfreak87]

Converting an OBD2 motor like an LS1 or an S54 to OBD1 makes it illegal.

Well I will have to research this thoroughly and worst come to worst I always have the m20 for smog, but that would be a major pain to do every 2 years. I'll just always be running from the coppers. Nothing new.

[Danny]

Converting an OBD2 motor like an LS1 or an S54 to OBD1 makes it illegal.

[Bimmerfreak87]

Whatever you do, it won't be smog legal. Just do an M50 turbo.

Why won't it be smog legal? I mean, I know it won't when I add all my goodies, but why not w/o goodies?

Plus I have a stock m20 (just in case) for smog. ;)

[Bimmerfreak87]

m20 is capable of 450rwhp on stock internals, just change the headbolts and gasket.

with an LS1 with added power, you're going to need rather wide tires to hold that power down!

if you want to be a fast driver, go S54
if you want to drive a fast car, go LS1

450rwhp on an m20...??? How do you figure that? Where is there a N/A track setup m20 that makes 450rwhp...? I would totally do this if it were actually possible. I thought 300hp was the magic # for the m20 and usually needs a turbo to get it. Very curious about this...

Also, I want to be both a fast driver and drive a fast car. :D

[Danny]

Whatever you do, it won't be smog legal. Just do an M50 turbo.

[El Gato Liso]

m20 is capable of 450rwhp on stock internals, just change the headbolts and gasket.

with an LS1 with added power, you're going to need rather wide tires to hold that power down!

if you want to be a fast driver, go S54
if you want to drive a fast car, go LS1

[Bimmerfreak87]

s54...i love BMW Power.

I also LOVE BMW power, but I'm not sure the s54 is capable of my hp goals. Looking for 400+ n/a and I know VAC motorsports made a 435hp 325tq s54, but that is about as much that is capable out of the s54 n/a I think and that would be fine for me, but I bet that motor costs over 10k...??? Not very realistic for me.

where in norcal are you?

Sacramento area.

PM him. That's his R3V name.

Ok I'll pm him. Thx

[hoveringuy]

That would be helpful. He have a website...?

PM him. That's his R3V name.

[covertperformance]

where in norcal are you?

[Holland]

Sheer power- LS1
Power delivery- S54

[bimmer_E30]

s54...i love BMW Power.

[Bimmerfreak87]

garretvs has a comprehensive "how to" CD on the LS1 swap and also has started to laser cut most of the components that he sells as a kit for $1500, I believe. Headers are off the shelf components.

That would be helpful. He have a website...?

[hoveringuy]

garretvs has a comprehensive "how to" CD on the LS1 swap and also has started to laser cut most of the components that he sells as a kit for $1500, I believe. Headers are off the shelf components.