S54 swap into an E30 racecar with MarkD ECU tuning

[MarkD]

Will Alpha-N be an option with this tuning?

What about MAF swaps(for FI-applications)? Any idea of what kg-hour the stock s54 MAF pings at?

$1800 still seems a bit steep considering you can get a DTA S80 running for about the same cost w/ base maps.

Will advice for datalogging hardware/software be given along with how to intergrate that with the tunerpro interface, such as part throttle map tuning?

I am glad you are using tunerpro though, I have been debating the s54 swap for awhile but wanted to use tunerpro. I have been using tunerpro w/ the 413 for about a year and have had great results thus far.

I can make alpha-N tunes but have not been promoting them as unless a car has exactly the same intake system as the one I develop the tune for, it will need some data logging and custom tuning. Right now I am only offering that for track cars in the Toronto area.

[MarkD]

So, this is another option for e30 folks swapping s54s into gods chassis then?
No need to ship to Europe for removing all the unnecessary stuff?

Sorry I just saw this today! Yes I am doing it all in Canada, no need to ship to Europe. I can easily set up my chip shipper so he can flash the DME's in Columbus Ohio, so it won't even need to come across the border.

[thedean]

Will Alpha-N be an option with this tuning?

What about MAF swaps(for FI-applications)? Any idea of what kg-hour the stock s54 MAF pings at?

$1800 still seems a bit steep considering you can get a DTA S80 running for about the same cost w/ base maps.

Will advice for datalogging hardware/software be given along with how to intergrate that with the tunerpro interface, such as part throttle map tuning?

I am glad you are using tunerpro though, I have been debating the s54 swap for awhile but wanted to use tunerpro. I have been using tunerpro w/ the 413 for about a year and have had great results thus far.

[Todd Black 88]

So, this is another option for e30 folks swapping s54s into gods chassis then?
No need to ship to Europe for removing all the unnecessary stuff?

[ForcedFirebird]

Right. Kind of like the Lisa desktop when I was in school. As a whole, electronics and parts have gone down in price because of other advancements such as smaller and easier to produce components.

Either way, we have a potential s54 swap coming in the shop and will be contacting you :)

[MarkD]

Yeah, I hear you. Electronics pricing has plummeted.

You may remember me, we had a long conversation on the phone, I'm in S.Florida. You gave me some direction on the hardware needed as we want to be able to do OBDII tuning in-house for our projects.

Yes I remember you. In this case, the drop is not so much because electronics prices in general have dropped, it's because Racelogic was selling a product that very few other companies made at that time. The actual cost to produce that emulator could not have been more than 400 or $500 but they didn't sell many so had to recover the development costs over a small number of sales.

[ForcedFirebird]

I have also used TunerPro and Moates hardware for years, just not on the S54.

And the Moates emulator sure beats the one I bought about 12 years back from Racelogic in the UK, that one was over $4000 by the time I got it into Canada

Yeah, I hear you. Electronics pricing has plummeted.

You may remember me, we had a long conversation on the phone, I'm in S.Florida. You gave me some direction on the hardware needed as we want to be able to do OBDII tuning in-house for our projects.

[MarkD]

Great news Mark!

I am glad to see you taking advantage to TunerPro. I have been using Mansur's software and Moates hardware for years, good stuff.

I have also used TunerPro and Moates hardware for years, just not on the S54.

And the Moates emulator sure beats the one I bought about 12 years back from Racelogic in the UK, that one was over $4000 by the time I got it into Canada

[ForcedFirebird]

Great news Mark!

I am glad to see you taking advantage to TunerPro. I have been using Mansur's software and Moates hardware for years, good stuff.

[MarkD]

Do you have a price point for this yet?

I have a very good idea what I want to charge in the end, but am not sure what the market will think of those prices. The way I see it, you can't only decide who to use based on price alone as I know very well that some of the people offering this service are just copying flashes they read from other ECU's, and I can't compete with them. Let's say that my price will be a great deal for what it is, and compared to what a well known place in the USA charges for just the S54 swap software without a tune. (they say on their website that they dropped the price to $1600 but that does not include a performance tune). I am still wanting to charge $1800 with a performance tune. The people that sent me DME's so far are getting a discount off that price for being the first to use my services.

[MarkD]

who's going to be doing that for you? gutenparts?

I hope to use Gutenparts, but I will also be using my regular shipper of OBD-1 chips who is a friend of mine, I'll be staying at his house during Oktoberfest in Columbus next month.

[240zs30]

Do you have a price point for this yet?

[nando]

who's going to be doing that for you? gutenparts?

[MarkD]

I want to mention that in a few months, I expect to be flashing MSS54 ECU's in the USA so no need to ship them to Canada. But in case I don't set that up, I am now able to flash and return these ECU's from Toronto within 3 days. And if someone is in a real rush and in Toronto, I can do it in 2 hours but prefer not to.

[MarkD]

will do, it'll just take some bench testing.

and I thought having 2 MSS54s was a lot :p

5 of those are for customers, all have to go out in the next week. I only have five for myself.