Rod bearing question on s54

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  • WannaBe30
    Wrencher
    • Feb 2013
    • 295

    #1

    Rod bearing question on s54

    So I'm prepping the motor and I wanted to ask about the rod bearing lubrication.

    I plan on doing these in the near future I already have them and I'm just waiting for the torque angle guage to get here.

    My question is if I change these bearings but wait about a month to actually start the engine with oil, will that be ok?
    Or should I wait to do them until right before dropping in the motor?

    I'll have the pan off to send it to be modified and wanted to wrap em up and put the pan back on then drop the motor in and button everything up.

    Also what kind of lube would yall recommend? Just the standard assembly lube?
  • Jb325is
    R3VLimited
    • Oct 2003
    • 2136

    #2
    I used Redline Assembly lube when I did mine. Mine sat for a month or so after I did the bearings, just make sure you really wrap it up well if you don't have the pan on it.
    - '88 m54 coupe

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    • TSI
      Mod Crazy
      • Mar 2012
      • 691

      #3
      Originally posted by Jb325is
      I used Redline Assembly lube when I did mine. Mine sat for a month or so after I did the bearings, just make sure you really wrap it up well if you don't have the pan on it.
      This. They can sit for as long as you want so long as they're insulated from the environment.

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      • gobuffs
        E30 Addict
        • Dec 2004
        • 513

        #4
        "Waiting for torque angle gauge" means to me you are using stock rod bolts. I would spring the extra bucks and get ARP rod bolts.

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        • WannaBe30
          Wrencher
          • Feb 2013
          • 295

          #5
          What exactly is the difference?

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          • gobuffs
            E30 Addict
            • Dec 2004
            • 513

            #6
            A more robust bolt that is less likely to fail.

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            • WannaBe30
              Wrencher
              • Feb 2013
              • 295

              #7
              Rod bearing question on s54

              So are you also Saying that arp rod Bolts don't need to use a torque angle gauge?

              I thought the early e46 rod bolts are just find and reusable? Any special precautions to reuse the factory bolts?

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              • gobuffs
                E30 Addict
                • Dec 2004
                • 513

                #8
                Yes, ARP rod bolts are torqued to a value not an angle. I would not reuse stock rod bolts. ARP rod bolts are reusable.

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                • WannaBe30
                  Wrencher
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 295

                  #9
                  I am considering this... Anyone else have a recommendation

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                  • The Dark Side of Will
                    R3VLimited
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 2796

                    #10
                    Get the ARP bolts but get a rod bolt stretch gauge (probably available for a reasonable price on ebay). If you're serious about bolts, measure stretch, not torque.

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                    • gobuffs
                      E30 Addict
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 513

                      #11
                      Still haven't figured out how you measure stretch on an S54 rod bolt with it in the car....the end of the bolt isn't exposed.

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                      • WannaBe30
                        Wrencher
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 295

                        #12
                        That's the main reason I decided to use oem bolts

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                        • gobuffs
                          E30 Addict
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 513

                          #13
                          Thats a bad reason to use OEM bolts IMO. But, I had a rod bolt let go at 135 going into turn 1 braking zone at VIR that clouds my judgement.

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                          • LJ851
                            R3V OG
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 7918

                            #14
                            Bolt stretch is always the best way to install a rod bolt. However, i have installed plenty of ARP rod bolts and if you follow their lubrication instructions the proper stretch is always achieved at their recommended torque number. I have no problem using a torque # on an ARP rod bolt.
                            Lorin


                            Originally posted by slammin.e28
                            The M30 is God's engine.

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                            • anaphe
                              Member
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 56

                              #15
                              So here is a question.

                              Does ARP replicate the same torque as the stock bolt? My experience is that to use an ARP bolt the rod should be measured first with the new bolt at recommended torque. Hence the reason I always use stock bolts on bearing swaps and the ARP bolts on new builds as it is difficult to do in situ?

                              Ak

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