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  • BeirBrennerE30
    R3VLimited
    • Oct 2003
    • 2740

    #1

    AKG Swap mounts not fitting?

    My original e28 mounts gave out so I went to upgrade to AKG mounts on my e30s54. I use Z3M s54 engine arms that I bought new from BMW so they aren't bent. And as far as I know the Z3m s54 engine arms are the correct ones that still have the intake manifold mount. The AKG bushing seems like the studs aren't wide enough for the engine. The mounts don't sit flat on the subframe and have to rock outwards to get the stud through the engine arms. It didn't look confidence inspiring. I tried another subframe I had and got the same issue so I am pretty sure it is the mounts. I contacted AKG and sent them some pictures of the issue and they agreed I had an issue but were pretty mehhh in general about wanting to do anything about it. Anyone else run into this issue? I always heard that the AKG were the best mounts, not sure where to go from here. I can post some pics of people are interested.
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    '89 325is - m20b25 - 5-speed - Individual​
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  • Sebastianjg
    Noobie
    • Jun 2016
    • 12

    #2
    Im interested, i just received my poly akg mounts and test fit them with my arc asylum subframe on an engine stand(if that matters) and they seem to fit fine

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    • BeirBrennerE30
      R3VLimited
      • Oct 2003
      • 2740

      #3
      Originally posted by Sebastianjg
      Im interested, i just received my poly akg mounts and test fit them with my arc asylum subframe on an engine stand(if that matters) and they seem to fit fine
      I will post pictures in a bit. What engine arms are you using? One of the subframes I mocked it up with was my arc asylum subframe. Maybe I got a bad set of mounts? I am hesitant to order another set and have the same issue.
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      '86 325es - s54b32tu - 6-speed - Mtech 1
      '89 325is - m20b25 - 5-speed - Individual​
      '06 M3 Competition - 6-speed
      '19 Porsche GT3 RS - 7-speed PDK
      '94 Lancia Delta HF Integrale EvoII - Giallo Ginestra
      '97 Range Rover Vitesse

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      • Sebastianjg
        Noobie
        • Jun 2016
        • 12

        #4
        I'm using the regular e36 engine arms

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        • BeirBrennerE30
          R3VLimited
          • Oct 2003
          • 2740

          #5
          Originally posted by Sebastianjg
          I'm using the regular e36 engine arms
          I am actually wondering at this point of the z3m arms do not have the same spacing as the e36 arms.
          e30sport.net
          '86 325es - s54b32tu - 6-speed - Mtech 1
          '89 325is - m20b25 - 5-speed - Individual​
          '06 M3 Competition - 6-speed
          '19 Porsche GT3 RS - 7-speed PDK
          '94 Lancia Delta HF Integrale EvoII - Giallo Ginestra
          '97 Range Rover Vitesse

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          • Jb325is
            R3VLimited
            • Oct 2003
            • 2136

            #6
            I used e36 arms on mine. I've only ever heard of people using the drivers side Z3 M engine arm. Maybe the passenger side is different compared to the e36? I would pick up a set of e36 arms and see if that changes anything .
            - '88 m54 coupe

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            • FredK
              R3V OG
              • Oct 2003
              • 14739

              #7
              I had the same issue when I tried using AKG solid aluminum engine mounts, with Z3M engine arms.

              I thought something was wrong with the mount arms I had, so I bought a new passenger side mount arm and used an E36 driver's side arm. It still didn't fit. I ended up selling the solid mounts and eventually upgraded to the AKG poly mounts. They still don't fit like a glove, but when the engine's weight pushes down on the mounts, it fits.

              What I'm suspecting is the aluminum mounts were designed around dimensions that don't actually work with the S54, but because the poly mounts have some give, they work.

              The E36 passenger side arm is identical to the Z3M. I bought a new E36 arm, and it was identical to the Z3M arm I had.

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              • Jb325is
                R3VLimited
                • Oct 2003
                • 2136

                #8
                Originally posted by FredK
                I had the same issue when I tried using AKG solid aluminum engine mounts, with Z3M engine arms.

                I thought something was wrong with the mount arms I had, so I bought a new passenger side mount arm and used an E36 driver's side arm. It still didn't fit. I ended up selling the solid mounts and eventually upgraded to the AKG poly mounts. They still don't fit like a glove, but when the engine's weight pushes down on the mounts, it fits.

                What I'm suspecting is the aluminum mounts were designed around dimensions that don't actually work with the S54, but because the poly mounts have some give, they work.

                The E36 passenger side arm is identical to the Z3M. I bought a new E36 arm, and it was identical to the Z3M arm I had.
                Good to know and I agree with you regarding the swap mounts. I have the black AKG's, and they work better than some others I've used but I've yet to use any swap mounts that fit perfectly.
                - '88 m54 coupe

                <3

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                • BeirBrennerE30
                  R3VLimited
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 2740

                  #9
                  Originally posted by FredK
                  I had the same issue when I tried using AKG solid aluminum engine mounts, with Z3M engine arms.

                  I thought something was wrong with the mount arms I had, so I bought a new passenger side mount arm and used an E36 driver's side arm. It still didn't fit. I ended up selling the solid mounts and eventually upgraded to the AKG poly mounts. They still don't fit like a glove, but when the engine's weight pushes down on the mounts, it fits.

                  What I'm suspecting is the aluminum mounts were designed around dimensions that don't actually work with the S54, but because the poly mounts have some give, they work.

                  The E36 passenger side arm is identical to the Z3M. I bought a new E36 arm, and it was identical to the Z3M arm I had.
                  Good info. I will post some pics eventually here and it would be interesting to see if your misalignment is similar to mine. I guess at this point if its an s54 thing, nothing is going to really work and I might as well use the AKG mounts
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                  '89 325is - m20b25 - 5-speed - Individual​
                  '06 M3 Competition - 6-speed
                  '19 Porsche GT3 RS - 7-speed PDK
                  '94 Lancia Delta HF Integrale EvoII - Giallo Ginestra
                  '97 Range Rover Vitesse

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