Flame Bait: Failed OEM Paint - Roller Paint or Leave Alone?

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  • funcrew
    E30 Fanatic
    • Jun 2007
    • 1223

    #1

    Flame Bait: Failed OEM Paint - Roller Paint or Leave Alone?

    My '88 sedan is badly in need of a paint job. The shell is 100% solid and rust free. However, there are lots of minor dings, owies, and paint chips, and worse, some partially re-sprayed areas from the PO have failed completely, with major 3-dimensional spider-web cracking of the clear coat.

    Note that "get a real $2K+ paint job" is not one of the poll choices. The Maaco's and Earl Scheib's in Las Vegas charge big $$$ when you get into urethane paints and body work, so I'm not leaning toward that either.

    I have now accumulated all the supplies to do the body work, a gallon of Pettit Easypoxy 1-part urethane yacht paint, and the supplies to do the paint.

    Now that all the stuff is in-hand, I'm sweating the amount of labor it's going to take to do this job. I think it will turn out nice; the roller painting method has come a long way since '07, and high-end yacht paints come out much better than Rust-O-leum. Color would change from OEM cirrusblau to arrest-me-red. Trunk and door jambs would be color matched, engine bay would not. Most of the trim would be removed rather than masked. My hideously body-colored plastic bumper strips (by PO) would return to OEM black. I'd roll the fenders prior to painting.

    I'm aware that this is a controversial topic, and don't mind some heated discussion.

    Please mention if, as an informed E30 buyer for a mid-grade, plain-vanilla model, would you prefer good looking non-factory fresh paint, or failed OEM paint that you could do whatever you wanted with.

    Also, I'm not in love with this particular shell, and may not keep it more than a couple years.

    Have at it.
    27
    Do the roller paint, at least it's better than cracked clear coat
    44.44%
    12
    Leave it ugly, drive it, let random pedestrians point and snicker
    55.56%
    15

    The poll is expired.

    "If the sky were to fall tomorrow, the tall would die first."

    -Dr. Paul Forrester



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  • Farbin Kaiber
    Lil' Puppet
    • Jul 2007
    • 29502

    #2
    doit.com

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    • FredK
      R3V OG
      • Oct 2003
      • 14751

      #3
      mexico.org?

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      • funcrew
        E30 Fanatic
        • Jun 2007
        • 1223

        #4
        Originally posted by FredK
        mexico.org?
        Your post matches your avitar. How did you do that?
        "If the sky were to fall tomorrow, the tall would die first."

        -Dr. Paul Forrester



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        • funcrew
          E30 Fanatic
          • Jun 2007
          • 1223

          #5
          Originally posted by Farbin Kaiber
          doit.com
          Is your avitar a pic of yourself? If so, we could pass for twins. Other than the tat.
          "If the sky were to fall tomorrow, the tall would die first."

          -Dr. Paul Forrester



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          • Farbin Kaiber
            Lil' Puppet
            • Jul 2007
            • 29502

            #6
            Yep. That's Fred.

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            • FredK
              R3V OG
              • Oct 2003
              • 14751

              #7
              Originally posted by funcrew
              Your post matches your avitar. How did you do that?
              I spent a lot of time in the state of Michoacan, learning to stew pork in lard and cola, so that I could make a triumphant return to Idaho to cook succulent and authentic Mexican cuisine for the locals. Sadly some of the lard has made it to my curvy figure. :???:

              OR, was that Farbin?

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              • 88driftIS
                Grease Monkey
                • Sep 2008
                • 300

                #8
                another idea. Borrow a cheap air compressor. go to harbor freight and buy a 12 dollar spray gun. Then thin your "paint" with what ever thinner works with it. Then spray over a rattle can primer.

                All of this of course after a good sanding.

                I did this on an old 88 civic hatch that was hurting. I used rustoleum white that you can get at lowes or homedepot. gallon was like $22, gun was around $15, thinner was $8. That with a borrowed compressor made for a very good ghetto paint job that looked really good. I just threw the gun away when I was done.

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                • sector6
                  E30 Modder
                  • May 2009
                  • 909

                  #9
                  ...if you can't afford to do it right, I'd leave it alone personally.
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                  • ldsbeaker
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 3098

                    #10
                    On an E30? why not?

                    On a 2002/bavaria/3.0csi?
                    GTFO
                    Slicktop City!

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                    • funcrew
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 1223

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ldsbeaker
                      On an E30? why not?

                      On a 2002/bavaria/3.0csi?
                      GTFO
                      Right. My underlying premise is that a POS 325i sedan is not a classic car whose value would be ruined by a sub-concours quality paint job. It already looks like crap. Some, and I stress "some" of the roller paint jobs documented over on the moparts.com forum in the last 2 years have looked superb. Some looked like crap. The rustoleum ones seem to fall into the crap category more than the yacht urethane ones.
                      "If the sky were to fall tomorrow, the tall would die first."

                      -Dr. Paul Forrester



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                      • funcrew
                        E30 Fanatic
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 1223

                        #12
                        Originally posted by sector6
                        ...if you can't afford to do it right, I'd leave it alone personally.
                        I hope that I have the common sense to listen to you, so I don't start another pointless idiot restoration project on my old POS. A victory for that outcome will save me a month of stupidity, and ridicule from my family and neighbors.
                        "If the sky were to fall tomorrow, the tall would die first."

                        -Dr. Paul Forrester



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                        • 318Joe
                          Advanced Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 160

                          #13
                          Spray or roll, if you paint over a shitty surface, it will look shitty.

                          Agree about take the time to do it right, or don't do it at all.

                          That said, I wouldn't change the color to red unless I did the engine compartment too. White would work, and I think you will have an easier time making it look good due to white's forgiving nature with surface imperfections.

                          The problem with a roller job is the time investment. If you can spare the time, and don't have the bucks, it is the best option

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                          • 88driftIS
                            Grease Monkey
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 300

                            #14
                            you can do the same thing with your yacht stuff. If it can be rolled on it can be sprayed. That and you don't have to sand for 40 hours. Do NOT do the roller job. Takes way to much time. That or if it is just your clear that is fubared, do a light sanding job on the car and work on the areas that are cracking. You might be able to just spray a clear on it again.

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                            • funcrew
                              E30 Fanatic
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 1223

                              #15
                              Thanks to all for your ideas.

                              I wanted to go with white or off-white paint, but my kids insisted on red. What can I do? I like the idea of a cheap HF sprayer. How much compressor would I need? Would it be possible to use a smaller compressor and one of those lower flow "trim" spray guns? Keep in mind that the yacht urethane does not use any hardener, so your working time is long. What about breathing protection - I have a spray-can grade mask w/ canister filters, but I don't think it's good enough for a spray-gun sized cloud of paint. I value my lungs and brain; painting is a good way to R3V both of those organs.

                              Also, trying to fix the clear seems like a non-starter. For one thing, I want to fix the dents, so I'm going to have to fill, prime, and paint if I want to start on the exterior at all. Touch-up isn't going to help.
                              "If the sky were to fall tomorrow, the tall would die first."

                              -Dr. Paul Forrester



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