Early Vert - How to remove factory front metal valence?

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  • achtunge30
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Apr 2006
    • 1029

    #1

    Early Vert - How to remove factory front metal valence?

    Going to be mounting an mtech 1 in its place and just from eyeballing it, it looks as though the mtech fogs will hit.

    How does the front metal valence on an early car (vert) come off? Diagrams or pics would be very helpful!
    - Frank
    '87 325ic M-Tech 1 For Sale!
    http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=407503
    Build Thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=229347
  • JasonC
    Site Manager
    • Aug 2006
    • 14451

    #2
    You are going to have to pull the front bumper off. And you'll be able to see everything with some common sense from there. Sorry, no pictures though.
    Last edited by JasonC; 10-21-2011, 04:31 AM.

    1992 BMW 325iC
    1978 Chevrolet Monte Carlo
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    • achtunge30
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Apr 2006
      • 1029

      #3
      Originally posted by JasonC
      You are going to have to pull the front bumper off. And you'll be able to see everything with some common sense from there. Sorry, no pictures though.
      Yeah - I did not see anything obvious underneath but I did not honestly give it an in depth look.
      - Frank
      '87 325ic M-Tech 1 For Sale!
      http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=407503
      Build Thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=229347

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      • Ceeker
        R3VLimited
        • Sep 2009
        • 2821

        #4
        you don't need to remove the valance to install the m-tech 1 (early m-tech that is) I have one on my 87-vert as pictured.

        You will need to remove the bumper. either the bumper shock from the frame 4 bolts or the bumper shock from the bumper. you can see in the first pic this has been done.

        I lined up the spoiler to show the existing holes in the valance line up to the brackets that are on the spoiler. You need these brackets to afix it to the valance. the valance is pre-drilled from factory to mount the spoiler.

        the last pic shows you the finished product.

        note: it will be tricky to get the upper nuts tightened so be patient.

        GL
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        • achtunge30
          E30 Enthusiast
          • Apr 2006
          • 1029

          #5
          Originally posted by Ceeker
          you don't need to remove the valance to install the m-tech 1 (early m-tech that is) I have one on my 87-vert as pictured.

          You will need to remove the bumper. either the bumper shock from the frame 4 bolts or the bumper shock from the bumper. you can see in the first pic this has been done.

          I lined up the spoiler to show the existing holes in the valance line up to the brackets that are on the spoiler. You need these brackets to afix it to the valance. the valance is pre-drilled from factory to mount the spoiler.

          the last pic shows you the finished product.

          note: it will be tricky to get the upper nuts tightened so be patient.

          GL
          Thanks but thats not the Mtech 1 I am referring to, thats the ES/IS front spoiler.

          The mtech 1 looks like this.
          - Frank
          '87 325ic M-Tech 1 For Sale!
          http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=407503
          Build Thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=229347

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          • M-technik-3
            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
            • Oct 2003
            • 18946

            #6
            you need a non North America valance other wise as you noted the fogs will hit the valance. Iassume your Tech I is cut out already and has fogs?
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            • achtunge30
              E30 Enthusiast
              • Apr 2006
              • 1029

              #7
              My car has front and rear euro bumpers. I read in another thread that I do not need to run any valences underneath as it did not matter since the mtech 1 mounts over top of it.

              The Mtech 1 bolts up to the front euro bumper and I already took care of mounting my euro bumper to the car. Eyeballing the existing US spec valence and the mtech 1 - the fogs sit up higher and that was my concern if the fogs would hit the US valence.
              - Frank
              '87 325ic M-Tech 1 For Sale!
              http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=407503
              Build Thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=229347

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              • M-technik-3
                I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                • Oct 2003
                • 18946

                #8
                Early valance US for oem NA fogs


                Tech I minus the fogs mounted with same NA valance fits fine but with fogs does not.
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                • achtunge30
                  E30 Enthusiast
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 1029

                  #9
                  Can the euro bumper and mtech 1 be mounted without any valence behind it?
                  Last edited by achtunge30; 10-21-2011, 08:18 AM.
                  - Frank
                  '87 325ic M-Tech 1 For Sale!
                  http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=407503
                  Build Thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=229347

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                  • M-technik-3
                    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 18946

                    #10
                    Yes and no, if you do so your fenders flap in the breeze. If you have fogs, mock the valance and just trim out the offending area..

                    M tech I fogs are E30 M3/ E28 fogs if yours are pitted.
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                    • achtunge30
                      E30 Enthusiast
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 1029

                      #11
                      Damn - thats what I was afraid of...good to know - may just do that rather than waiting another 1-2 months to find a euro valence then convince the seller to ship it to me - thanks for the info!
                      - Frank
                      '87 325ic M-Tech 1 For Sale!
                      http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=407503
                      Build Thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=229347

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                      • fporro
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 1858

                        #12
                        theres's also a gap on corner where fender meets bumper, that will be noticible if a US (early) or no valance is used.
                        get a euro unit with slot for oil cooler !

                        mt1 fronts come for Automatics with no oil cooler slot and manual with single or dual slots ;)

                        fogs mount to mt1 not valance and MB fog lights can be used a frenchie low/hi beams

                        here's my us 87 325ic, from db's to mt1 with euro valance from manual transmition car.,
                        notice that mt1 fog mount points clear through the valence opening



                        single slot :(




                        my Dual slot :)
                        Last edited by fporro; 10-21-2011, 10:23 AM.

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                        • M-technik-3
                          I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 18946

                          #13
                          No AC was a single slot as well. New oem will be both holes closed and you trim it accordingly.
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                          • fporro
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 1858

                            #14
                            Oh yes, item # 7 it's built in for US and separate item
                            for euros ... http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...35&hg=41&fg=10

                            At first I cut away to clear fogs until buying euro version.

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                            • achtunge30
                              E30 Enthusiast
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 1029

                              #15
                              Thanks guys. Did quite a bit of cutting tonight just to discover I will have to cut
                              my driver side tow hook and it should fit like a glove by tomorrow!!

                              I am single slot right now by the way and considering going dual slot.
                              I guess down the road if a euro valence becomes available I will grab it.
                              - Frank
                              '87 325ic M-Tech 1 For Sale!
                              http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=407503
                              Build Thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=229347

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