Euro bumpers front valance question

[SoCal323i]

Was there more than one type of front valance for euro bumpers?

Yes. There is one for up to 9/85 and another one from 9/85 to 9/87 and they’re not interchangeable.

From your pictures it looks like you have the early style lower lip piece and a late valance.

The lower lip piece for the 9/85 to 9/87 valance is part #51 71 1 943 868 and is the bigger, darker one in these pics:

Got it. So the other M-Tech valance, not a sheet metal one, was also available as OEM item and NLA as well?

There were two OEM Air dams available for the early Euro cars (up to 9/85) one was M-Tech and the other wasn't. The non M-Tech bolts to the same holes that the black lower lip thing used and the M version replaces the whole valance.
The non M is part #51 71 1 932 197
M-Tech is part # 51 11 1 929 559

Here’s the non M-tech version:

[ainadude]

Jean,

I just went through what you're facing over the past six weeks so I can speak from recent experience: If you're going to run the euro bumpers without the M-Tech 1 items, get the appropriate corresponding bumper trim pieces. The parts are still available through the dealer -- if you've got a good counter guy who's willing to check other dealerships' stock -- and they aren't that expensive. The fit is noticably different between the two versions -- it will stand out if you're using the wrong trim pieces -- and you'll regret it every time you look at the car if you don't do it right in the first place.

Hope this helps and best of luck on your project You'll be very happy with the finished product.

[Jean]

Unless you have an Mtech kit, get the regular moldings.

Fair enough. But, what's the reasoning behind that?

[kronus]

Unless you have an Mtech kit, get the regular moldings.

[Jean]

bump, need a confirmation

[Jean]

The peice you're talking about is an OEM piece, and it looks like shit if you ask me. Its fiberglass or similiar I believe.

AS far as fog plates, I have no idea. I couldnt find them on realoem. My guess would be its NLA though.

Did you get the fog light carrier/mounts too?

Yep, I did get the fog light carrier/mounts and I did find the fog light delete covers for the euro valance so they do exist. I'll order those first before getting euro fogs...


"I'm just talking about moldings. Which are still the same. I'm talking about the clips lol "

If the moldings are the same, then why do they have two different part numbers?

[kronus]

In Andy's part out thread, he mentions that his euro bumpers have Mtech-specific endcaps. Since the endcap and the bumper molding are the same pieces, presumably there are two different types of euro bumper molding: regular, and mtech-specific.

[scabzzzz]

Thank you. So to make sure I understand this, 51111888266, 51111888273, 51111888274 snap in and 51111953715, 51111953713 , 51111953714 uses screws to mount ?

Didn't know there were two types of chrome euro bumpers .

I may be wrong on the second part (Mtech), but I know its different. I looked at some a long time ago they ended up being a different type of clip than what I currently have, which is non MTECH bumpers.
The bumpers are the same. I'm just talking about moldings. Which are still the same. I'm talking about the clips lol :nice:

[scabzzzz]

Is the early one the one-piece fiberglass is that an add-on aftermarket or oem piece?

Also, does anybody know what the part number for the fog light delete covers for this valance would be?

The peice you're talking about is an OEM piece, and it looks like shit if you ask me. Its fiberglass or similiar I believe.

AS far as fog plates, I have no idea. I couldnt find them on realoem. My guess would be its NLA though.

Did you get the fog light carrier/mounts too?

[Jean]

Thank you. So to make sure I understand this, 51111888266, 51111888273, 51111888274 snap in and 51111953715, 51111953713 , 51111953714 uses screws to mount ?

Didn't know there were two types of chrome euro bumpers .

[scabzzzz]

Well, the Mtech euro bumpers that fit onto the Mtech valence and great one piece is a big different in how it straps to the bumper itself. You can use euro bumpers from an mtech kit and vice versa but it doesnt bolt on the same. The regular euro bumpers like you have, will have the mouldings as snap in pieces, as opposed to the little screw type clips I believe on the mtech bumpers. So when you order parts, order for the non mtechnic.

As far as your pickup, JasonC is right. You have the earlier model units like I have. You can use any early lip on it US or Euro (same shit pretty much) as long as its not 86-87. So 83-85 will work. Those bumpers should be plug and play. One thing you will have a problem with though (at least I did) is the front turn signal lights. The connectors are different and wont plug straight in. I just left mine out.
I picked up an 87 model front lip that I'm going to fab up to the valence. It looks better in my opinion. For reference on what I'm talking about, check out Backtrail69's red sedan euro bumpered car. The early lips (83-85) always get warped and fucked after many hard years. I'm running what I consider to be the best condition possible and it still sags. Hope this clears it up. PM me if you have problems. I've been researching for a while and stocking parts for comparisons. :)

Here is a picture of what your front end will look like. I drive an 86.



Sloped front end with the early, early lip with brake duct holes.

[Jean]

This thread might have some helpful info:
http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=108107

Those are for the plastic bumpers looking at the part numbers..

[ethree]

This thread might have some helpful info:

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=108107

[Jean]

Guys, I want to order new plastic parts for the front euro bumper and I am confused why there there multiple part numbers for the same items.

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...33&hg=51&fg=15

10 PROTECTIVE MOULDINGS 1 09/1987 51111888266 $23.72
10 PROTECTIVE MOULDINGS M TECHNIC 1 09/1987 51111953715 $25.95

11 RUBBER STRIP LEFT 1 09/1987 51111888273 $27.06
11 RUBBER STRIP LEFT M TECHNIC 1 09/1987 51111953713 $32.09

12 RUBBER STRIP RIGHT 1 09/1987 51111888274 $25.67
12 RUBBER STRIP RIGHT M TECHNIC 1 09/1987 51111953714 $33.20


Whats the difference? How are the mouldings/ rubber strips that aren't marked with "M technic 1" different ?

[Jean]

Got it. So the other M-Tech valance, not a sheet metal one, was also available as OEM item and NLA as well?