removing headliner-Do i really need to remove the winshield and windows?

[haaken675]

I need to pull the headliner in my car to check the roof for rust so I can create a plan of attack on fixing the rust spots on my roof. The only instructions I could find online say I need to remove the windshield and all other windows. Is that really true? is there not other way to remove the headliner without pulling the windshield out? Although I am confident I can do this, I'm not too keen on the idea of having to remove so much glass and making it all seal up properly again...

[agent]

Yes.

[dude8383]

Front and rear windshields have to be removed. Its a pain in the butt but doable.

[haaken675]

That doesn't sound like a lot of fun, especially with no help...I may just cut it out for now so I can do the rust repair and then deal with building a new one later...

[NC325iC]

Front windshield did not need to come out for mine. I pulled it out anyway and cracked it putting out back in. All the other windows did have to come out. Probably depends on where you get your replacement.

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[haaken675]

I went ahead and simply cut out the headliner...I am having to repair some rust holes formed around the sunroof due to a wind deflector collecting water and rusting through...Already ordered a sunroof delete panel so I figured I might as well just go through with it.