Speaker clearance

[foundation982]

so I'm looking to get these for the back http://www.crutchfield.com/p_113KFCP509/Kenwood-KFC-P509PS.html?tp=105&nvpair=FFBrand|Kenwood I like them cause I want good sound, yet they don't look like they came out of a spaceship. but what I want to know is would these http://www.crutchfield.com/p_113KFC1362/Kenwood-KFC-1362S.html?tp=105&nvpair=FFBrand|Kenwood&nvpair=FF Speaker_Size|5+1%2f4 clear in the front kick panel?

[soupiemelody]

yes they will clear in the front kick panel

[StereoInstaller1]

No, they won't clear the front kickpanel, and the tweeter will get broken off as soon as someone bumps them with their foot. The speaker cone itself will also press against the cone of the speakers (OK, the outer surround to be technical) so that has to be spaced slightly out as well. That is true for virtually all aftermarket speakers though.

They do not sound anywhere near as good as the stock PS speakers, either. In fact, don't take this as me being a dick, but that particular speaker, the KFC-1362S, is an absolute pile of shit. They suck in every way.

OK, let me clarify that: IF you have a subwoofer, go ahead and use aftermarket speakers. If you don't have a sub, get a nice condition set of stock Premium Sound speakers. They have a "fuller" bottom end than ANY aftermarket speaker, bar none.

I am not kidding, there is NOTHING on the market to compete with the bass of the PS speaker no matter the price (in the same size, DUH, right?). Of course, the mid and treble will possibly be better than stock, but not from those crappy Kenwoods, especially those miserable shitbox coaxials you posted. I bet I have installed at least 100 pair of those, they ALWAYS suck ass. I actually like those components better than some, but since they are going under the stock grille so the looks do not matter, and there are several other speaker sets I would point to instead.

Do a set of stock PS speakers until you get a sub, then swap to something decent AFTER you have an amp powering the stock speakers.

When you buy the rear PS speakers, just aim to get some that are not sun damaged. The cones are supposed to be black, or nearly so.

Luke

[LowR3V'in]

dumb question but why not just turn up the sound instead of using an amp, or is
that not what an amp is for?

[StereoInstaller1]

dumb question but why not just turn up the sound instead of using an amp, or is
that not what an amp is for?

That is like saying pushing harder on the gas pedal will make you go faster. A normal "Deck and 4" install is out of power at even moderate volume levels.

[foundation982]

No, they won't clear the front kickpanel, and the tweeter will get broken off as soon as someone bumps them with their foot. The speaker cone itself will also press against the cone of the speakers (OK, the outer surround to be technical) so that has to be spaced slightly out as well. That is true for virtually all aftermarket speakers though.

They do not sound anywhere near as good as the stock PS speakers, either. In fact, don't take this as me being a dick, but that particular speaker, the KFC-1362S, is an absolute pile of shit. They suck in every way.

OK, let me clarify that: IF you have a subwoofer, go ahead and use aftermarket speakers. If you don't have a sub, get a nice condition set of stock Premium Sound speakers. They have a "fuller" bottom end than ANY aftermarket speaker, bar none.

I am not kidding, there is NOTHING on the market to compete with the bass of the PS speaker no matter the price (in the same size, DUH, right?). Of course, the mid and treble will possibly be better than stock, but not from those crappy Kenwoods, especially those miserable shitbox coaxials you posted. I bet I have installed at least 100 pair of those, they ALWAYS suck ass. I actually like those components better than some, but since they are going under the stock grille so the looks do not matter, and there are several other speaker sets I would point to instead.

Do a set of stock PS speakers until you get a sub, then swap to something decent AFTER you have an amp powering the stock speakers.

When you buy the rear PS speakers, just aim to get some that are not sun damaged. The cones are supposed to be black, or nearly so.

Luke

DAMMIT! no one replied so I just ordered them, the back sound great but those fronts are nothing impressive. Oh well I'll pawn them off possibly return them and get some stock speakers.

[StereoInstaller1]

Or, get some kind of a subwoofer.

[5Toes]

What the hell makes them PS's so great?

[gmyers395]

What the hell makes them PS's so great?

This. I have always wondered.