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  • dudecati
    Advanced Member
    • Jun 2012
    • 104

    #1

    Installing a/d/s 325is speakers

    Hi All - I have a set of ads 325is component speakers (5 1/4" drivers, tweeters and separate crossovers) that I've had since the late 80's and am now wanting to install in my 91 318is.

    I tracked down a set of door tweeter pods that are in very good shape and wanted to place them in there. However, it appears that the tweeters are a bit to large to fit and they are rather heavy. Has anyone installed these in that location before? I don't want to crack the pods (as is currently the case with the sony tweeters the PO installed in the pods). Should I just install the ads in the rear shelf and go with another speaker combo up front?

    Thoughts?
  • bmwguy325is
    E30 Fanatic
    • May 2011
    • 1262

    #2
    It can be done. The tweeters that is. Just depends on your level of craftsmanship. If its somthing you fear you will mess up take them to some one. If they break them its on them.
    What can be done is you can front mount them and ditch the OE tweeter cover.
    sigpic"If one does not fail at times, then one has not challenged himself." -Ferdinand Porsche
    The ugly car: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=209713

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    • StereoInstaller1
      GAS
      • Jul 2004
      • 22679

      #3
      Originally posted by dudecati
      Hi All - I have a set of ads 325is component speakers (5 1/4" drivers, tweeters and separate crossovers) that I've had since the late 80's and am now wanting to install in my 91 318is.

      I tracked down a set of door tweeter pods that are in very good shape and wanted to place them in there. However, it appears that the tweeters are a bit to large to fit and they are rather heavy. Has anyone installed these in that location before? I don't want to crack the pods (as is currently the case with the sony tweeters the PO installed in the pods). Should I just install the ads in the rear shelf and go with another speaker combo up front?

      Thoughts?
      Thoughts? Yes, simply enough, buy another set of tweeters!

      Seriously though, yes, I did that same tweeter in James Crivellones MTech1 car. I used bondo, fiberglass, kitty hair, plastic spray texture, high build primer and paint to d0 it, likely $80 in materials or more bought, but used $1.25's worth.

      I don't think I have any pics at all, maybe PM him, see if he can get a pic of them for you.

      It was likely my 40th "build out" of something in bondo and I gotta say, was one of the tougher ones. Nothing as bad as the 17" monitor in the factory overhead console of a Navigator, but tough, nonetheless.

      Luke

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      • bmwguy325is
        E30 Fanatic
        • May 2011
        • 1262

        #4
        ^--This he knows better than I
        sigpic"If one does not fail at times, then one has not challenged himself." -Ferdinand Porsche
        The ugly car: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=209713

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        • StereoInstaller1
          GAS
          • Jul 2004
          • 22679

          #5
          Oh yeah....I could not figure a way to use the stupid ADS driver, just not possible to shove it in that hole without major surgery. The issue is the door jamb gets in the way. I would consider doing the driver in the door if I wanted to hear that particular speaker...and believe me, I understand why you would want to hear them, having installed literally hundreds of sets of that same speaker.but damn, what a pain in the ass to do for such a noisy car!

          GL

          Luke

          Closing SOON!
          "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

          Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

          Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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          • dudecati
            Advanced Member
            • Jun 2012
            • 104

            #6
            OK - so front it a total pain. I may just put them in the rear then, the PO put the same Sony separates there and one is blown. I'm assuming placing them in the back should be easier.

            Any recommendations on what components to put up front? The car has a 4x50 PPI amp in it powering all the speakers so I've got some decent power.

            Originally posted by StereoInstaller1
            Oh yeah....I could not figure a way to use the stupid ADS driver, just not possible to shove it in that hole without major surgery. The issue is the door jamb gets in the way. I would consider doing the driver in the door if I wanted to hear that particular speaker...and believe me, I understand why you would want to hear them, having installed literally hundreds of sets of that same speaker.but damn, what a pain in the ass to do for such a noisy car!

            GL

            Luke

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            • StereoInstaller1
              GAS
              • Jul 2004
              • 22679

              #7
              uh, ick....the state of 5.25" separates these days is piss poor.

              I did some Orion (now DEI chinese crap too) XTR series components, they weren't bad.

              Got a budget?

              Luke

              Closing SOON!
              "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

              Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

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              • steve68
                E30 Addict
                • Jan 2013
                • 457

                #8
                BA pro 5.0 5.25 seperates, what do you think of them,
                88 M3 Lachsliber glass top, 90 IS project,

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                • StereoInstaller1
                  GAS
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 22679

                  #9
                  Originally posted by steve68
                  BA pro 5.0 5.25 seperates, what do you think of them,
                  Me? There have been too many different speakers from them called "Pro" to know without an exact model number. Generally solid performers though, but typically fairly top dollar. There was a stretch in the late 90's that I was pretty underwhelmed with power handling, but they fixed that, and I bet all of those are dead anyway.

                  If it is the early ones (the best of them IMO) the frame of the speaker is thick, and there is no way to get them under the stock grille. You can't cut into the kickpanel much without hitting the door jamb.

                  Closing SOON!
                  "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

                  Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

                  Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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                  • dudecati
                    Advanced Member
                    • Jun 2012
                    • 104

                    #10
                    Budget - haven't really thought about it. I'm willing to put a bit into it but as you said it is a noisy car. Only reason I've got the ads speakers is I've had them for ages!

                    I am after good, accurate sound - I'm hoping to stay around $150 +/- if I had to throw a # out there. Thoughts?


                    Originally posted by StereoInstaller1
                    uh, ick....the state of 5.25" separates these days is piss poor.

                    I did some Orion (now DEI chinese crap too) XTR series components, they weren't bad.

                    Got a budget?

                    Luke

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                    • g.ruff561
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 1261

                      #11
                      I have a pair of MB Quart 5 1/4 + tweets+ crossovers separates that are from that same era. Back in the day when MB Quart was made in Germany. They were the shit. I had them posted for $200 obo + shipping. If you are interested make me an offer. They are mint. Never mounted. Found them while looking for some other junk in my storage. Pics available by email request.

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                      • StereoInstaller1
                        GAS
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 22679

                        #12
                        Originally posted by g.ruff561
                        I have a pair of MB Quart 5 1/4 + tweets+ crossovers separates that are from that same era. Back in the day when MB Quart was made in Germany. They were the shit. I had them posted for $200 obo + shipping. If you are interested make me an offer. They are mint. Never mounted. Found them while looking for some other junk in my storage. Pics available by email request.
                        Got an exact model number?

                        Closing SOON!
                        "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

                        Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

                        Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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                        • g.ruff561
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 1261

                          #13
                          Sup Luke? Im at work right now, they are at home. Send me an email I will send you some pics.
                          Last edited by g.ruff561; 03-01-2013, 11:21 AM. Reason: Correct name. Sorry Luke. I'm at work and trying to hurry and text.

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                          • bmwguy325is
                            E30 Fanatic
                            • May 2011
                            • 1262

                            #14
                            Originally posted by g.ruff561
                            I have a pair of MB Quart 5 1/4 + tweets+ crossovers separates that are from that same era. Back in the day when MB Quart was made in Germany.....
                            I had a driver let go one day. I cried as I new I would not be able to replace them..
                            sigpic"If one does not fail at times, then one has not challenged himself." -Ferdinand Porsche
                            The ugly car: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=209713

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                            • dwvw
                              Wrencher
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 234

                              #15
                              A company called German Maestro now owns all the old factories and tooling for German MB Quart product. Haven't ever run into any though, so can't vouch for it.

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