The Ghost Motor

[Bullhead]

Wow, main relay? Strange, but great, glad it's all working.

I've never taken apart that side of the vents that cover the ww motor, but there are probably a few guides how to, I think pelican parts has one.

I'll keep a secret, I need to stop by my local one also to grab one more speaker. They only had a bunch of e34 and no e30 though.

Right on! Thx again for the help.

[Navarone]

Wow, main relay? Strange, but great, glad it's all working.

I've never taken apart that side of the vents that cover the ww motor, but there are probably a few guides how to, I think pelican parts has one.

I'll keep a secret, I need to stop by my local one also to grab one more speaker. They only had a bunch of e34 and no e30 though.

[Bullhead]

Oh ok, thought they were repairs from the previous owner

LOL! Yeah if that was the case I would have definitely passed. Here's the update Nav, I told you I took the main relay out last night and cleaned it up. Now everything is working properly, key switch has to be on for anything to work. I did however find that where my arm from the ww motor connects to the arm for the wipers themselves has broke. The arms are still good but the bolt has broke that holds them together. Looks like a booger to get out, we will see. Good new is my pulla part has a plethora of parts cars. But don't tell anyone cause those "Lemons" guys will clean me out lmbo.

[Navarone]

Oh ok, thought they were repairs from the previous owner

[Bullhead]

Roger that, the bungee and rope are helping me hold stuff out of the way for the tranny swap lol.

[Navarone]

A large flashlight battery is only 6v so the relay might not work with low voltage.

Rope and bungee cords doesn't look promising for quality electronic repairs.

I found a better book, I was wrong about the main relay so ignore that, the wiper control gets power through fuse 5 that goes right through the ignition switch while in acc, run start.

If only the ignition switch is bad then the wiper stalk should still work to turn wipers off.
If only the wiper stalk is bad then the key in off should turn the wipers off.
If both are bad then even with the key off there is still power going to fuse 5 through the key, and the stalk is still telling the control unit to turn on the wipers through a fault in the stalk itself.
If both are good then you have 12v spliced in somewhere wrong.

If you did the wiper control box test in the scanned page I posted a while ago and the only 12v you find is at fuse 5, pin 15 and pin 85 then the ignition switch is bad or constant 12v has bypassed the ignition switch and been shorted or spliced into a wire somewhere, but wipers should still turn off with stalk.

With the key and stalk off, check if there is power on any of the other pins where the wiper control unit plugs in to, please let me know which pin and we can go from there.

Try pulling fuse 12 and see if any of the problems go away, tell me everything that changes. Fuse 12 is hot in acc, run, start for radio and instrument cluster.

[Bullhead]

Well I just opened the 5 pin silver relay that was in the small relay box up, and some plastic fell out. This may have been some kind of sealant or epoxy for the case. The relay is not stuck closed but it does look weak. Can I test this with a 9v battery from a big flash light to see if it closes properly?

[Bullhead]

I think that's a thumb screw and there's a fuse inside the cover.

Right on, I haven't messed with it.

[Navarone]

The Ghost Motor

I think that's a thumb screw and there's a fuse inside the cover.

[Bullhead]

Here are some pics of the relay and fuse boxes (2) that I have, the small black box has been uncovered.

[Bullhead]

Yeah I think I'm mistaken but I can't find a schematic to double check. I'm reading the manuals now, I think the main relay between the shock tower and the throttle body on the bracket with two other relays only sends power to the fuel pumps and the ecu. Maybe it doesn't send power to the fuse box for accessories.

If your other accessories are working as they should then I don't think the ignition switch is bad. If I could only poke around or find a schematic I'd be able to find the problem pretty quickly!

You'll have to post a pic, I have no idea.

Roger that, I wish I was electronically sound as you are. I will get some pics of the engine bay and get them up here in 10 minutes or sooner.

[Navarone]

Yeah I think I'm mistaken but I can't find a schematic to double check. I'm reading the manuals now, I think the main relay between the shock tower and the throttle body on the bracket with two other relays only sends power to the fuel pumps and the ecu. Maybe it doesn't send power to the fuse box for accessories.

If your other accessories are working as they should then I don't think the ignition switch is bad. If I could only poke around or find a schematic I'd be able to find the problem pretty quickly!

You'll have to post a pic, I have no idea.

[Bullhead]

What is the little clear box with the knob on it beside the fuse box under the hood? I want to turn it so bad I can't stand it lol, like the red button. I will look for the relay you are talking about, I bet it is stuck open. I have to turn my key switch on for my ac/heat and windows to work though so that part is working properly.

[Navarone]

The Ghost Motor

The ignition should switch on a main relay that sends power to the fuse box. It could be a stuck relay or bad ignition switch. Sadly I can't find wiring schematics for the fuse box past the fuses to any type of main relay. There is what's called a main relay in the 325 cars on a bracket near the air box with two other relays for fuel and something, but the 318 doesn't seem to have it so I can't go tickle my car and tell you what to test.

I'll keep looking :/

[Bullhead]

Also there is power to the wiper relay at all times, is their an ignition switch relay besides the key switch?