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**beta14ok** · 05-05-2015, 08:35 PM

Lukebox E3010 Duh!!

It's not gonna sing without it.

Read here: http://www.germanaudiospecialties.com/

**StereoInstaller1** · 05-05-2015, 08:49 PM

Are you absolutely committed to those choices?

At this point, I would not recommend any of them.

The Pioneers would be OK if they were damn near free, I guess.

What deck are you looking at, and are you already hunting for Premiums?

**Blitzkrieg** · 05-05-2015, 11:37 PM

Originally posted by StereoInstaller1 View Post

Are you absolutely committed to those choices?

At this point, I would not recommend any of them.

The Pioneers would be OK if they were damn near free, I guess.

What deck are you looking at, and are you already hunting for Premiums?

I got 2 pairs of the pioneers for around $120 so i could run two up front with the tweeters in oem pods and two in the rear with the tweeters in premium housings. And i literally just saw this email from amazon -_-

Due to a lack of availability, we will not be able to obtain the following item(s) from your order:

"Kicker CVR104 10" Dual 4 ohm CompVR Series Car Subwoofer"

So i guess im down the sub. I know you recommended the power bass sub but i would like to go with a brand i could communicate with in the event i have any issues with it.

In regards to the deck idk what im looking for. Idk if the wiring diagram i posted would be the way to go. Still trying to wrap my head around it all. I just want nice quality components that wont take a shit or sound bad. So im down the sub, amp for the component speakers, head unit, and im sure other shit you guys will tell me about

**agent** · 05-06-2015, 05:49 AM

You need:

A head unit of choice with three sets of 5v pre-outs, plus any other features you want
An Infinity 10" DVC sub
A Lukebox
BMW Premium Sound midwoofers
Luke's awesome writeups

I'm using the Planet Audio 1800.5 amp. If you already own a 4 channel and a mono amp you can use them, though I am thoroughly impressed by the PA. I have had car stereo systems costing thousands of dollars that don't sound this good.

There's no point trying to rewrite the book when Luke has already written it, and has hundreds of happy customers - all of whom are saying the same thing I am (and he has).

**StereoInstaller1** · 05-06-2015, 06:13 AM

Amp: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...-MB-Quart.html

Woofer: http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...nce-1062W.html

Read this: http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=321590

**StereoInstaller1** · 05-06-2015, 06:20 AM

Oh, and last time I stopped in at Powerbass HQ, this past December, I communicated just fine.

Do you not speak English well? Let me know which language you prefer, I am sure I can arrange tech support in almost any language on the planet, and then you won't have to buy a pile of shit plastic coned gutless sloppy overpriced turdball of a woofer.

**Blitzkrieg** · 05-06-2015, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by agent View Post

You need:

A head unit of choice with three sets of 5v pre-outs, plus any other features you want
An Infinity 10" DVC sub
A Lukebox
BMW Premium Sound midwoofers
Luke's awesome writeups

I keep hearing this. Will my 2nd pair of pioneer components not work in the rear?

Originally posted by StereoInstaller1 View Post

Oh, and last time I stopped in at Powerbass HQ, this past December, I communicated just fine.

Do you not speak English well? Let me know which language you prefer, I am sure I can arrange tech support in almost any language on the planet, and then you won't have to buy a pile of shit plastic coned gutless sloppy overpriced turdball of a woofer.

Never heard of em until you Luke. English is fine thanks alot.

**StereoInstaller1** · 05-06-2015, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by Blitzkrieg View Post

I keep hearing this. Will my 2nd pair of pioneer components not work in the rear?

Did you read the link I posted?

**Andy.B** · 05-06-2015, 10:16 AM

No joke. Trust Luke (StereoInstaller1). He will not steer you wrong.
I followed his advice on my audio build, and it is amazing. Smooth, full sound, plenty of volume with no fatigue, and outstanding bass. I can switch from talk radio type podcasts to classic rock to rap to any other genre, and never even dream about adjusting the EQ settings. Everything sounds great.
Like others have said, I have spent much more money on previous cars, thinking I was doing the smart thing by sticking to name brands, but none of them can hold a candle to my e30's stereo.
The single most expensive component of the build was the Lukebox, and it was worth every penny.

**StereoInstaller1** · 05-06-2015, 10:23 AM

Thanks, Andy!

**dubdub** · 05-06-2015, 10:52 AM

I think it is worth cautioning here - especially someone new looking to put together a system - that a lot of other R3V readers here have drank the KoolAid with GAS. Putting posts that you "NEED" this or have to follow one way, may be overstating it some. We can say that a lot of us have found that this is a path to a great sounding system, but it is certainly not the only way... though it might be the easiest way!

To try and answer some questions from the OP. You do not need the premium speaker pods to run speakers in the rear. In fact, I do not think speakers that are not OE will fit in there too well. I could be wrong, but the generally square shape of OE speaker frames allow it to sit in the pod comfortably. You can just mount speakers on the rear deck without the pods.

The comments that you've seen to the effect of needing premium speakers, are not talking about the pods, but the speakers that originally contained. German Audio Specialties developed a set of crossovers that allow one to use the original speakers, but utilize much higher watt amps... cleanly. GAS also believes that the original design of these speakers were developed with the forethought that they would be used in a small space, like our kick panels... unlike other aftermarket makers that design speakers to work in car doors, which have a much larger space. Just like a sub, the environment that the speaker is in impacts sound.

When it comes to subs, I have had about 6 different set-ups in my E30s over the past 17 years. The GAS one (I have the 10") is the best one I have had. It doesn't take up much space; it doesn't rattle the car as badly; and it hits as well, or better, than the 2 12" box I had before. You will not be able to build a better box. Period... well, unless you like less space, or more rattles... but I think that is a minority of people, for sure.

As for amps, and even subs, I think a lot on here believe that you can get very good sound without having to drop major cash on the "name" brands... and have proven it. I get that there are times that rattling off the name brands you've dumped into your car can have a value to some when boasting... but what really matters is what it sounds like when you're in the car. And if you can get a sub that costs $40 to sound just as good or better than a sub that costs 10x as much... that's on you for paying more, but it isn't the sound quality that is driving the decision.

I've never bought a "cheep" amp, but I am sure there are plenty out there that supply the needed power... I picked mine on looks, I won't lie... I like conservative, non-flashy amps... so that is what I bought, and I am certain I paid more than necessary for it. n I will say, buying a 5-channel amp saves cost, wiring, space, can be a cleaner install. My $0.02.

So that is what I know. A lot of people on here have followed Luke's advice and have seriously high quality systems because of it... but part of the fun of owning a car is making it your own and trying different things. There is no question that this board is so cookie-cutter in our approach that it is a bit boring... but when I am in my car, and it sounds great driving home tonight, I assure you, I won't care!

**agent** · 05-06-2015, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by dubdub View Post

I think it is worth cautioning here - especially someone new looking to put together a system - that a lot of other R3V readers here have drank the KoolAid with GAS. Putting posts that you "NEED" this or have to follow one way, may be overstating it some.

Would you also say that a lot of other R3V readers here have drank [sp] the KoolAid with BBS, Ground Control, H&R, Koni or Bilstein? Or would you say those are easily identified as among the best in class offerings for our cars, which amplified their popularity?

Originally posted by dubdub View Post

There is no question that this board is so cookie-cutter in our approach that it is a bit boring... but when I am in my car, and it sounds great driving home tonight, I assure you, I won't care!

There's also the mentality that once someone has done it really well, it's worth doing it that way - perhaps with some personal preferences thrown in to make it "yours."

**dubdub** · 05-06-2015, 12:43 PM

I think you read my post as critical; it was not. I am one of the converted. I was just trying to give the OP some context as to why he will hear the same answer from so many on here... just thought it was worth mentioning that we've been known to be a bit evangelical with GAS products... and generally have one answer to the question was asking.

**agent** · 05-06-2015, 12:58 PM

Gotcha ;)

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