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    #16
    heh your right. Ive bought raammat back in 03' and it was butyl based so that past must of really been 'the past'.

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      #17
      Originally posted by Schneider325 View Post
      Your right, but do you think the $200 is a ton of cash? RAAMmat is middle grade stuff. I can't see spending the big cash for the premium Butyl with a non-asphalt filler products. Those products would include Second Skin Damplifier, Damplifier Pro and Dynamat Xtreme as the cream of the crop. There isn't THAT big of a difference between the mid grade shit and the premium shit. Now if you want to compare the asphalt based products ( peal-seal) with the mid grade products such as RAAMmat ( Butyle w/ with Asphalt filler), there is going to be a bigger difference with the $200 spent. Most importantly you get the reassurance of not having a nasty ass asphalt smell on a hot day and having the layers start to slip off and fail. The less heat resistant the product is, the less it is going to mute road noises and therefore you are wasting money.
      The big issue is that you seem to think that there is not that big of a differeence between Tier 1 and 2. There is a HUGE difference between the best and the rest of it. And yes, I agree that $200 is not a ton of cash, but I would estimate it would take more like $500 to make a really significant drop in road noise. You would also have to do the roof!

      Keep in mind that my point was pertaining road noise, not just general noise reduction.

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        #18
        Originally posted by StereoInstaller1 View Post
        The big issue is that you seem to think that there is not that big of a differeence between Tier 1 and 2. There is a HUGE difference between the best and the rest of it. And yes, I agree that $200 is not a ton of cash, but I would estimate it would take more like $500 to make a really significant drop in road noise. You would also have to do the roof!

        Keep in mind that my point was pertaining road noise, not just general noise reduction.
        Looks like your right on this one. If my mid grade raamaudio shit were to do some serious dampening, I would have to get at least two rolls, which would cost over $400.

        I'll have just enough to cover the whole car with the one roll I have, plus a few double layers.. Especially since I picked up about 6 yards of Ensolite to put over top of the raamaudio. Hopefully the Ensolite give the results an edge.

        Regardless, I’m much happier spending the $200 rather than $60 and that peel-seal shit.. Asphalt smelling car FTL…

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          #19
          Originally posted by Schneider325 View Post
          Looks like your right on this one. If my mid grade raamaudio shit were to do some serious dampening, I would have to get at least two rolls, which would cost over $400.

          I'll have just enough to cover the whole car with the one roll I have, plus a few double layers.. Especially since I picked up about 6 yards of Ensolite to put over top of the raamaudio. Hopefully the Ensolite give the results an edge.

          Regardless, I’m much happier spending the $200 rather than $60 and that peel-seal shit.. Asphalt smelling car FTL…
          I have been laughing at the "Dynamat Rules" retards for years...way WAAAAAY back in the day (like 1986 or so) Car Audio magazine did an actual test of original Dynamat. Proved beyond a doubt that the shit did nothing, absolutely nothing. Not until Cascade came out with their goopie shit did sound deadening actually do anything.

          The 100% Butyl stuff does do a pretty good job, but if your aim is to attack actual "road noise", good fucking luck. Dynamat deals with metal ringing, not consistent ambient noise. Especially fairly low frequency stuff like...road noise.

          Luke

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            #20
            i heard you can rhino line the inside of a car and works just as good but this theory i have never tested

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              #21
              Take out all of the Sound deadening and replace it with Rhino Liner or generic brand Rhino Liner. It will reduce weight and I have heard it reduces the noise, but I can't verify this first hand.

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