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    E-30 Electrical Gurus...help needed

    We're building an E-30 racecar for a customer.
    The car is pretty much ready, mechanically speaking.

    There are a few minor electrical issues that need to be resolved.

    The car is currently running the standard motronic unit.
    It has an aftermarket fuel pump, run to switched power.
    The coil and ignition system have also been altered to run on switches.

    The problem we are facing is that someone else did earlier electrical work on this car, and the car will not run with the current setup.
    The fuel pump works, the car will crank...but we have no spark.

    There is power to the Motronic, and power to the coil.

    Basically, what are the MINIMAL requirements to achieve spark, (what wires need to go where) and what are the overall MINIMAL requirements for the Motronic to operate the injectors?

    Please be as detailed as possible, Motronic pin positions and wire color codes would be great.

    Our build specialist is a BMW Certified Mechanic, and he's been working on the car off and on for a few weeks, and tomorrow afternoon a consultant from the BMW Dealership is coming to take a look at it. We've tried two different Motronic ECUs, we get continuity on all connections, so we're not quite sure what's wrong.

    Here's what we're dealing with:




    We'll be replacing the existing switches and routing them to a master panel in the dash we fabricated, and the wiring will of course be re-sleeved and routed through conduit. We're looking to eliminate the fusebox and C101 also.

    Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

    #2
    The car not running is a minor issue? :p

    What year engine harness?
    -Dave
    2003 Lincoln Towncar | 1992 BMW 325iC | 1968 Cadillac Deville

    Need some help figuring out the ETM?

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      #3
      It's an 89 325i.

      LOL, it's minor...relatively speaking.

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        #4
        Ok, pin #7 of C101/pin #27 DME..... Battery voltage with key on?
        -Dave
        2003 Lincoln Towncar | 1992 BMW 325iC | 1968 Cadillac Deville

        Need some help figuring out the ETM?

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          #5
          Check.

          This is Green from Coil to Motronic and Ignition? There's power there.

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            #6
            Nick, do you have the BMW electrical manual?

            Closing SOON!
            "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

            Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

            Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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              #7
              Yeah, we have the BMW ETM for the E30.
              Which makes it kinda embarassing that we can't get this car started.

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                #8
                Damn, that pin 27 is usually it.

                Ok,

                Key on engine off, DME unplugged, you want power at:
                27
                1
                18
                37


                You want ground at:
                19
                14
                24
                2
                -Dave
                2003 Lincoln Towncar | 1992 BMW 325iC | 1968 Cadillac Deville

                Need some help figuring out the ETM?

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                  #9
                  Yeah, like me not being able to remote start my buddys GFs 02 Grand Prix? Fucking GM databus crap is worse than any bosch doo-doo, but I do feel your pain.

                  Go VROOM, dammit!

                  Closing SOON!
                  "LAST CHANCE FOR G.A.S." DEAL IS ON NOW

                  Luke AT germanaudiospecialties DOT com or text 425-761-6450, or for quickest answers, call me at the shop 360-669-0398

                  Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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                    #10
                    The guy from BMW is here now. For some reason, the coil is hot at the ground...so we're baffled. We have a BOB test box and the computer has ground and power at all the right places. We don't have internet access at the shop yet so I have to do this from my phone.

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                      #11
                      We figured out that that's normal and might be making progress

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                        #12
                        Ah was just gonna say, that means at least the primary is working! (and its also why I said there should be voltage at terminal 1 above, thats the wire for the "negative" of the coil)
                        -Dave
                        2003 Lincoln Towncar | 1992 BMW 325iC | 1968 Cadillac Deville

                        Need some help figuring out the ETM?

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                          #13
                          Yeah, the BMW guy had to think for a minute to remember how the old ignition systems work.

                          Even I couldn't remember, and I've done engine swaps in the e30 before.

                          Right now we think we may have a bad crank pulse sensor. Or maybe the wiring harness is boogered up some other way.

                          If the guy from the dealership can't get it to work this week, (and if anyone is relatively local), we'd consider paying someone like $20/hr if they think it could work.

                          I actually had my camera today, so here's a decent picture of the car in question (plus a few extras)



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                            #14
                            Ooh, eye candy! sweet bonus.

                            Anyway, just thought of something. There are two three pin connectors under the diagnostic plug. Swap them. Any change? If not, swap them back.
                            -Dave
                            2003 Lincoln Towncar | 1992 BMW 325iC | 1968 Cadillac Deville

                            Need some help figuring out the ETM?

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                              #15
                              Those would be the....pulse sensor connector and...I forget what the other one does off the top of my head.
                              I want to say coolant, but I know that's not right.

                              We tried that already! I can remember having that problem when I did my 'e' to 'i' swap way back in 2000.

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