MSExtra M20 Turbo high rpm hesitation help please.

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  • cheek
    Noobie
    • May 2012
    • 7

    #1

    MSExtra M20 Turbo high rpm hesitation help please.

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    Last edited by cheek; 09-17-2017, 03:13 PM.
  • Q5Quint
    Mod Crazy
    • Jan 2005
    • 725

    #2
    See if you can post a imgur link or something for the log files.

    What you are describing could be many things, and the work you did to the car could be a culprit, or not.

    Possible issues to check:

    I had issues running rich + spark blowout under boost once my plugs were about 6 months old. New plugs would fix the hesitation. But it was a bucking/hesitation.

    Feeling flat but still accelerating, not hesitating, could be a timing retard event happening for some reason. Could be overboost, could be temp sensor, could be several things.

    I usually set mine for around 5k rpm for the 'soft cut' timing retard rev limiter before the hard cut at 6k while I am starting boost tunes to keep myself from blowing things up. Make sure your soft cut settings are not similar~ you may have never noticed it before but with the work you did and the timing getting off slightly you can feel them more now... but the cam going backwards 3 degrees and making it better is confusing... the slight knock you hear now would make sense.

    Where I get really confused is the grounding issues moving the hesitation up 500-1000rpm. If you have a coolant sensor that is not grounding properly at higher rpms, and it is telling your ms that the engine is cold (or hot), causing a soft cut timing retard to happen... that could explain the issue. The work you did replacing the head gasket might have disturbed the grounding connection, and the wiggle in your logs for the sensor might attribute to this.

    Fun eh?

    My car was hesitating and cutting off randomly- so I replaced the stock ecu with a pnp ms from whodwho and it runs perfectly now. A cracked circuit board that disconnects under vibration could hurt either ecu. Goodluck and try imgur or something to link some pics of your tune. Curious about you timing settings and map, and the soft cut rev limits.

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    • cheek
      Noobie
      • May 2012
      • 7

      #3
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      Last edited by cheek; 09-17-2017, 03:14 PM.

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      • SLEEPYDUB
        Mod Crazy
        • Dec 2011
        • 658

        #4
        OP have you found a solution to your problem?
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        Current Project - 87 325is 2JZ Swapped with M4 DCT

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        • kyleconstantine
          E30 Fanatic
          • Apr 2014
          • 1380

          #5
          Hey one easy thing to check is the crank position sensor gap...i was having issues reving past 5k because my gap was too large. Ms is way more fickle than the stock ecu. Should be 1mm between the cps and the toothed wheel....a us dime can be used if you dont have feeler gagues.

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          • SLEEPYDUB
            Mod Crazy
            • Dec 2011
            • 658

            #6
            Originally posted by kyleconstantine
            Hey one easy thing to check is the crank position sensor gap...i was having issues reving past 5k because my gap was too large. Ms is way more fickle than the stock ecu. Should be 1mm between the cps and the toothed wheel....a us dime can be used if you dont have feeler gagues.
            I will adjust mine, but i have logged several runs with MS and have not seen any loss of signal from the crank sensor
            - AXIS POWERS - 2JZ E30 Build
            Current Project - 87 325is 2JZ Swapped with M4 DCT

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