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  • matt
    No R3VLimiter
    • Oct 2003
    • 3731

    #16
    Originally posted by Mr Deagle
    ok, then do what i did in my thread, 2.3 s14 crank, 2.3 s14 rods, ford gt40 pistons by mahle, turbo exhaust manifold, and a GOOD ems....none of this megasqurit bs, oh and a NLA schrick cam
    What's a GOOD ems?

    If you say Tec3 I'm going to die laughing...

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    • matt
      No R3VLimiter
      • Oct 2003
      • 3731

      #17
      PS the only way you're going to get 200hp out of an M10 and still have it worth autocrossing or on the street is to turbo it.

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      • xLibelle
        R3VLimited
        • Aug 2004
        • 2673

        #18
        i dont see whats wrong with MS
        properly tuned, its great

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        • matt
          No R3VLimiter
          • Oct 2003
          • 3731

          #19
          Originally posted by xLibelle
          i dont see whats wrong with MS
          properly tuned, its great
          Word.

          Well, lets say it's great for double the price.

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          • Jean
            Moderator
            • Aug 2006
            • 18228

            #20
            Originally posted by matt
            PS the only way you're going to get 200hp out of an M10 and still have it worth autocrossing or on the street is to turbo it.
            That's the route I am going with, but I am not going to just put a turbo on the motor until I get everything that needs to be fixed/upgraded done etc..
            Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



            OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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            • Rocla
              E30 Modder
              • Aug 2006
              • 922

              #21
              Originally posted by Mr Deagle
              pistons are like .5 mm over stock, the blocks crack because tards try to put way too big pistons in
              I did 3mm overbore, most sources told me it would be ok.

              It was not, 2 blocks cracked now.

              Next engine will use similar bore that Mr Deagle has and I will use antique block, which weights ~10-15kg's more that 318i block.

              If I was not on limited budget, id use s14 block, and venolia pistons.
              Current:

              BMW 320i 2d 2.0 m20 -88
              BMW 325i Cabriolet 2.5 m50 -88
              BMW 316i touring 1.6 m40 -90
              BMW 320i 4d 2,2 m54 -01

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              • Jean
                Moderator
                • Aug 2006
                • 18228

                #22
                Originally posted by Rocla
                I did 3mm overbore, most sources told me it would be ok.

                It was not, 2 blocks cracked now.

                Next engine will use similar bore that Mr Deagle has and I will use antique block, which weights ~10-15kg's more that 318i block.

                If I was not on limited budget, id use s14 block, and venolia pistons.
                S14 block with m10 head?
                Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                • Mr Deagle
                  E30 Enthusiast
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 1121

                  #23
                  Originally posted by matt
                  What's a GOOD ems?

                  If you say Tec3 I'm going to die laughing...
                  [RANT]

                  you obviously dont know who i am or what im capable of acquiring, my dads shop builds porsche race car engines, from N/A to 900 hp turbo engines....i was actually working on some 964 C2 heads today.... we have used almost every high end system out there, Zytec, Pectel, Motec, and EFI Technologys, in my turbo M10, im using a EFI Euro 96, which features 3 ignition drivers, 8 injector drivers and anti lag and launch control....


                  In the 170 hp M10 that i was talking about, it has a STOCK (rebuilt) 2002 bottom end, and a polished E30 318i head, custom exhaust header and a Schrick 304 cam using an EFI Technologys Euro 1 ecu....it never got fully tuned (its just sitting on a stand at our shop) but it could probably make 180-190 hp.

                  I am not a n00bie when it comes to cars/engines/tech stuff, i have been around porsche performance stuff my whole life

                  [/RANT]


                  edit: I could probably sell TWO people pistons that work absolutely perfectly with the S14 crank/rods setup, and you end up with 8.5:1 compression....or was it 7.5:1, but its perfect for turboing

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                  • matt
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 3731

                    #24
                    Where did that come from?

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                    • rede30
                      R3V Elite
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 4697

                      #25
                      I am not a fan of turbos on most bmw engines but i would turbo the shit out of an m10 or m30, for some reason they just scream blow me. hehehehe. I really want my next project to be an early white or brown 318 and turbo it. I hope this helps...not really, i wasn’t trying to help i was just typing shit.
                      https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-h...wE3UqwjjmaTrXg

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                      • Jean
                        Moderator
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 18228

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Mr Deagle
                        [RANT]

                        you obviously dont know who i am or what im capable of acquiring, my dads shop builds porsche race car engines, from N/A to 900 hp turbo engines....i was actually working on some 964 C2 heads today.... we have used almost every high end system out there, Zytec, Pectel, Motec, and EFI Technologys, in my turbo M10, im using a EFI Euro 96, which features 3 ignition drivers, 8 injector drivers and anti lag and launch control....


                        In the 170 hp M10 that i was talking about, it has a STOCK (rebuilt) 2002 bottom end, and a polished E30 318i head, custom exhaust header and a Schrick 304 cam using an EFI Technologys Euro 1 ecu....it never got fully tuned (its just sitting on a stand at our shop) but it could probably make 180-190 hp.

                        I am not a n00bie when it comes to cars/engines/tech stuff, i have been around porsche performance stuff my whole life

                        [/RANT]


                        edit: I could probably sell TWO people pistons that work absolutely perfectly with the S14 crank/rods setup, and you end up with 8.5:1 compression....or was it 7.5:1, but its perfect for turboing

                        Can you get some pics of this na 170hp m10 with a stock block ? Head/ exhaust work if possible ?
                        Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                        OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                        • Mr Deagle
                          E30 Enthusiast
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 1121

                          #27
                          maybe, its just sitting in our shop....but i may be dynoing it to learn the ems so i can show u some dyno sheets

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                          • Mr Deagle
                            E30 Enthusiast
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 1121

                            #28
                            Originally posted by matt
                            Where did that come from?

                            it seemed like you were calling me a dumba$$

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                            • Rocla
                              E30 Modder
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 922

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Jean
                              S14 block with m10 head?
                              Yes, s14 block will accept m10 head with minor work, and has 93,4mm bore.

                              And offcourse will cost more....
                              Current:

                              BMW 320i 2d 2.0 m20 -88
                              BMW 325i Cabriolet 2.5 m50 -88
                              BMW 316i touring 1.6 m40 -90
                              BMW 320i 4d 2,2 m54 -01

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                              • Jean
                                Moderator
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 18228

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Rocla
                                Yes, s14 block will accept m10 head with minor work, and has 93,4mm bore.

                                And offcourse will cost more....
                                I don't know if it makes sense $ wise to put an s14 block with a pos m10 head lol.... I bet s14 block is just as much as a complete m20/m50 motor ?

                                I plan on just sticking with the m10 block/head for now, if this doesn't work out then I'll just have to swap a newer i6.
                                Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                                OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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