Cold Start Idle Issue

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  • laidback93
    E30 Addict
    • Nov 2016
    • 434

    #1

    Cold Start Idle Issue

    Hey R3V,

    I've been having this cold start idle issue for at least a year or more. The engine will surge a bit before catching idle. The engine will almost die (sometimes it does) when you blip the throttle and it comes back down to idle off of deceleration. See my video here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IVx...nel=laidback93

    I thought this was fuel related and recently tested the pressure with a gauge. At first the psi was around 43 or so and it kept pressure long after shutting the engine off. I tested it again a few days later and the highest the pressure would get was 30psi. Why, I don't know. Very strange. I might have done something wrong. The gauge wouldn't even move when I tapped the throttle.

    Here's what has been done so far:

    Smoke test - no vacuum leaks at all
    CPS - New
    CTS (both) - New
    TPS - swapped used
    AFM - swapped used
    ICV - brand new Bosch - HOWEVER -it doesn't seem to be a free moving as my old one. Someone suggested I lube it up with lithium grease. THOUGHTS?
    FPR - swapped with another used one I had in my garage. No change
    Fuel Pump - I replaced this with a brand new unit. My old pump was extremely noisy and most likely on it's way out. NO CHANGE
    Injectors - I'm running the M50 injectors that do not require a tune. All signs were pointing to one of them being leaky, but now I'm not sure because of this...


    I tested a theory last week. Something had been in the back of mind and I proved it to be true. I realized that when I disconnect the battery and reset the DME (I assume) the problem goes away on the initial start up after reconnecting the battery. See this video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K4v...nel=laidback93

    This leads me to believe it's sensor related. The DME must relearn the bad sensor readings and then the cold idle stumble comes back? That's my theory for now.


    The only sensor I haven't replaced is the o2. I don't know how old it is. Might give it a shot.

    I hope I'm getting close to finally figuring out this annoying issue.

    FYI - the problem goes away after about 5 minutes of idling/driving. I'm assuming because it goes into closed loop.




    90 Bronzit 325is
    16 Black Sapphire 340i M Sport
  • tomstin
    E30 Addict
    • Mar 2015
    • 545

    #2
    The best all in one place idle document I've found is here: http://www.verrill.com/car/e30_idlefaq.shtml Hope it helps.
    2004 525i Manual - 1985 325E Coupe Manual

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    • laidback93
      E30 Addict
      • Nov 2016
      • 434

      #3
      Originally posted by tomstin
      The best all in one place idle document I've found is here: http://www.verrill.com/car/e30_idlefaq.shtml Hope it helps.
      Thanks for sharing the link. I'll give it a read.
      90 Bronzit 325is
      16 Black Sapphire 340i M Sport

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      • ADEN
        Mod Crazy
        • Feb 2008
        • 620

        #4
        Originally posted by tomstin
        The best all in one place idle document I've found is here: http://www.verrill.com/car/e30_idlefaq.shtml Hope it helps.
        This page is very informative but if only applies to e model and doesn't help with idle of the i engine.laidback93 is your car e or i?

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        • tomstin
          E30 Addict
          • Mar 2015
          • 545

          #5
          Mine is an "E". But I think it may be an interesting foundation if you get your "i" wiring diagram to check all the sensors. I believe the theory is similar.
          2004 525i Manual - 1985 325E Coupe Manual

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          • Chebyshev
            Member
            • Aug 2007
            • 46

            #6
            I am having the same problem as laidback93 right now.

            Did you get it figured out?

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