re torueing crankshaft bolt

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  • zep06
    Advanced Member
    • Apr 2007
    • 181

    #1

    re torueing crankshaft bolt

    so got it off and everything changed... now how the hell do you get that thing back to where it was
  • vr2jetta
    E30 Addict
    • Sep 2008
    • 460

    #2
    Yea, like 300 and something ft lbs. I took mine to a shop to have it torqued considering my torque wrench only goes to 150. The shop was right down the road so driving it there without the coolant system intact was not a problem for me. Worst case, if you have a compressor, hit it with an impact and hope for the best. Thats what I was going to do but someone stole my impact from my mothers garage.

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    • whodwho
      E30 Mastermind
      • Jun 2008
      • 1547

      #3
      Curious, why did you both pull it to begin with?
      My M20 Frankenbuild(s)
      4 Sale - Fully Built TurnKey Megasquirt Plug and Play EMS

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      • vr2jetta
        E30 Addict
        • Sep 2008
        • 460

        #4
        Originally posted by whodwho
        Curious, why did you both pull it to begin with?

        I didnt, the PO did, I bought the car like that. The head was removed, so I am assuming he thought it needed to be pulled out to put on the new timing belt.

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        • Jparkr
          HR Admin
          • Jan 2006
          • 3494

          #5
          Originally posted by whodwho
          Curious, why did you both pull it to begin with?
          You have to pull it to change the two lower seals.

          1987 PRO-3 car /1990 325is (2.7i Concours)

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          • vr2jetta
            E30 Addict
            • Sep 2008
            • 460

            #6
            Originally posted by Jparkr
            You have to pull it to change the two lower seals.
            I doubt that the guy did that. It looked like he pulled it all apart and got scared he couldnt put it back together so he decided to sell it. Works for me, got it for $400, and it looks pretty good, and now runs great. A little hard to start when cold but runs like a raped date when all warmed up!

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            • erik325i
              No R3VLimiter
              • Jan 2005
              • 3567

              #7
              I think you are supposed to replace the crankshaft bolt with a new one. I know you are on the e36 motors.

              If you put the car in gear, pull the handbrake, and have someone standing on the brakes in the car, you should be able to get a torque wrench on the crankbolt to torque it without the motor just turning.
              That's if the car has a manual tranny. If it's an auto, you'll have to build a tool to hold the crank while you tighten it.

              Erik

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              • 416stroker
                R3VLimited
                • May 2008
                • 2448

                #8
                :pimp:ingersoll rand / thread
                84 318I Delphin RIP
                87 325IS delphin 24v Sold
                89 325 Alpineweiss

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                • vr2jetta
                  E30 Addict
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 460

                  #9
                  Originally posted by erik325i
                  I think you are supposed to replace the crankshaft bolt with a new one.

                  I read both my books (Chilton/haynes) and neither of them said to replace it. Can anybody with a Bentley confirm?

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                  • zep06
                    Advanced Member
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 181

                    #10
                    Originally posted by whodwho
                    Curious, why did you both pull it to begin with?
                    to change the timing belt?

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                    • vr2jetta
                      E30 Addict
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 460

                      #11
                      Originally posted by zep06
                      to change the timing belt?

                      Is it necessary to pull the crank pulley to change the timing belt? The pulley was all ready pulled when I got the car so I wouldnt know, and God knows how much you can trust the "quality" books I have.

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                      • whodwho
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 1547

                        #12
                        It isn't necessary to remove the large crank bolt, you remove the six ones that hold the front pulley/dampener you can slip the belt out and in around the lower sprocket still installed. Yes you would need to remove it if you were to replace the front seal which rarely needs to be replaced.
                        My M20 Frankenbuild(s)
                        4 Sale - Fully Built TurnKey Megasquirt Plug and Play EMS

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                        • Hallen
                          E30 Enthusiast
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 1008

                          #13
                          No, you do not have to replace that nut. You can use loctite on it if you want though, I would recommend it.

                          The torque is 300 (about) ftlbs. However, that nut doesn't do much but hold the harmonic balancer on the car. The high torque probably has to do with the standard torque for a bolt/nut of that size and the fact that it spins and catches a lot of vibration (it is hooked to the crank shaft). Use loctite, put a 1/2 in breaker bar on it, put on a 3ft cheater bar and pull as hard as you can. You'll get it tight enough
                          1987 E30 325is
                          1999 E46 323i
                          RIP 1994 E32 740iL
                          oo=[][]=oo

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                          • zep06
                            Advanced Member
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 181

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Hallen
                            No, you do not have to replace that nut. You can use loctite on it if you want though, I would recommend it.

                            The torque is 300 (about) ftlbs. However, that nut doesn't do much but hold the harmonic balancer on the car. The high torque probably has to do with the standard torque for a bolt/nut of that size and the fact that it spins and catches a lot of vibration (it is hooked to the crank shaft). Use loctite, put a 1/2 in breaker bar on it, put on a 3ft cheater bar and pull as hard as you can. You'll get it tight enough
                            you dont think the loctite will make an already pain in the ass even more so to take off in the future? ive heard some horror stories of people trying to get that bolt off only to find it was loctite..

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                            • Hallen
                              E30 Enthusiast
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 1008

                              #15
                              Of course it will make it harder to get off. However, probably not enough to notice when you are yanking with a 1/2in breaker bar and a 3 foot extension. If you can torque to the spec (you have the right torque wrench) then don't worry about the lock tight. If you can't, use a bit of loctite. The loctite is there to keep the nut from backing off due to vibration. It really shouldn't cause too much of a problem when taking the nut back off.
                              1987 E30 325is
                              1999 E46 323i
                              RIP 1994 E32 740iL
                              oo=[][]=oo

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