How straightforward is an oil pan gasket replacement?

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  • priapism
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Mar 2010
    • 1182

    #1

    How straightforward is an oil pan gasket replacement?

    Just drop, remove, replace, reinstall? Anything I'm missing?
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    -Sean : 91 Calypso 325i : Castro Motorsports SoCal Spec E30 #33
  • xwill112x
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    • Jan 2009
    • 4237

    #2
    on a m20 youll have to drop the subframe
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    • spaceshuttle
      Advanced Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 169

      #3
      I lifted the engine up a little with a jack and didn't have to drop the sub frame when I did it

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      • priapism
        E30 Enthusiast
        • Mar 2010
        • 1182

        #4
        ^ tell me more...
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        -Sean : 91 Calypso 325i : Castro Motorsports SoCal Spec E30 #33

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        • xwill112x
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          • Jan 2009
          • 4237

          #5
          ^^ or that. either will ahve to be done. i tryed and tryed and couldnt get a pan on with out dropping the frame or raising the engine
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          • IRON-E
            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
            • Dec 2007
            • 16548

            #6
            Originally posted by xwill112x
            on a m20 youll have to drop the subframe
            If you remove the oil pump and drop the steering rack, you don't have to.
            @IRON-E30 aka Edwin:D

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            • e30huh
              Wrencher
              • Aug 2010
              • 216

              #7
              Originally posted by IRON-E
              If you remove the oil pump and drop the steering rack, you don't have to.
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              • E300000
                Banned
                • Dec 2010
                • 6

                #8
                I lifted the engine up a few inches, dropped the steering rack and oil pump. Was still a bitch.

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                • xwill112x
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                  • Jan 2009
                  • 4237

                  #9
                  theres different way to do it...cool. subframe is still the easiest.
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                  • spaceshuttle
                    Advanced Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 169

                    #10
                    yes lift engine, drop the steering rack I was able to do mine without taking the pump out it took a little persuasion but not a lot.

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                    • NC325iC
                      R3V OG
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 6565

                      #11
                      i changed mine with the engine out and it was a pain in the ass. just saying
                      Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

                      Originally posted by TimKninja
                      Im more afraid of this thread turning into one of those classic R3v moments, where Pizza gets delivered.

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                      • stumble_t
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 759

                        #12
                        If you decide not to drop the subframe be sure to also order new oil pump shaft spacers, they will crumble when you look at them.
                        Getting the pump bolts back in while the pan is in place is a total sonofabitch by the way.
                        Also, make sure you disconnect the ground strap.
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                        • Justin B
                          Sikky Nar Nar
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 4273

                          #13
                          If you get the engine high enough, you won't need to take the pump off. It is possible to weasel the back of the pan out under the pump pickup.

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                          • new2e30s
                            Noobie
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 5

                            #14
                            Originally posted by stumble_t
                            If you decide not to drop the subframe be sure to also order new oil pump shaft spacers, they will crumble when you look at them.
                            Getting the pump bolts back in while the pan is in place is a total sonofabitch by the way.
                            Also, make sure you disconnect the ground strap.
                            Is it really necessary to replace the spacers?

                            I ask because I destroyed them tonight and the parts stores are closed tomorrow (Sunday) and I don’t want to waste a day because of 2x $.15 spacers…

                            I read that the spacers are actually referred to as ‘stoppers’ and their primary function is to prevent the oil pump drive shaft from being pulled out of the oil pump (and subsequently dropped into the oil pan) when the distributor is removed. Obviously this is unwanted because then you would have to remove the oil pan to fix the drive shaft.

                            The M20’s distributor is driven directly from the camshaft and not a gear on the crank so I’m arguing that removing the distributor will not affect the oil pump drive shaft. Furthermore, if the M20 did have a geared distributor then the only time the stoppers would be necessary would be if you were removing the distributor.

                            It appears that the stoppers aid maintenance activities and have no impact on normal operation, i.e. driving, racing, etc. In the case of the M20, the stoppers appear completely superfluous.

                            Any other opinions?

                            Has anyone failed to replace the stoppers? If so, were there any negative consequences, normal operation, maintenance, or otherwise?

                            Thanks.

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