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    What is this connector?

    Hello,

    This is my first e30. I is kind of a piece but at $750 for a running car i couldn't resist. Always wanted one of these cars. So there is a electrical connector on the intake manifold that is unplugged (pic attached) , what is it?

    Also the engine surges while idling and and under partial throttle. It surges less when more throttle is applied. I have been searching around online and this seems to be a fairly common problem on 325e models. I have found various forum threads suggesting to replace various sensors and valves to fix the issue. Most of these threads end up with the OP not solving the issue or at least not posting the final fix. The only fix that seem to smooth out the issue is unplugging the O2 sensor. I tried this out because it was the cheapest/easiest and it worked! No more surging and a steady idle. The performance of the car seems unaffected but i have not driven it enough yet to tell if my fuel economy has significantly suffered. My question is do most 325e drivers unplug their O2 sensors and live with a rich running car or should i just start spending money swapping sensors?

    BTW the car is an 84 325e

    Thanks!
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    #2
    should be the obd1 plug

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      #3
      Thanks! Maybe i should make another thread relating to the topic of my second question...

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        #4
        A systematic approach will find the cause of the unstable idle. Work your way through what follows after replacing the O2 sensor.

        Idle or hard starting problems are most commonly caused by intake leaks and/or
        a sticky or defective Idle Control Valve (ICV). The only reliable method of
        locating intake leaks is to have a smoke test run on the intake and crank case
        and to test the brake booster with a gage and vacuum pump. The complete list
        of possible causes of an intake leak is:

        Intake boot
        Throttle body gasket
        ICV hoses & connections
        Brake booster, hoses, and connections
        Crank case breather hose
        Evaporative control hoses, valve, and expansion tank
        Fuel pressure regulator & hose
        Injector seals
        Valve cover gaskets & bungs
        Oil filler cap
        Dip stick o-rings
        Oil return tube o-rings

        While leaks in some of those can be found by inspection or by spraying carb
        cleaner on suspect areas, not finding leaks that way doesn't eliminate the
        possibility. Only a smoke test will really work.

        Once the possibility of intake leaks is eliminated, the ICV needs to be
        removed and cleaned with carb cleaner until the vane inside moves freely. When
        the ignition is switched on you should be able to feel vibration from the
        ICV. If no vibration the ICV is bad, there's a problem with its wiring or
        connector, there's a problem with the TPS, or the DME (or Idle Control Module
        (ICM) on an ETA car) is faulty.

        For the DME (or ICM) to control idle, the idle switch in the TPS must work
        correctly. The switch should close when the throttle stop is 0.030-0.060" off
        the idle stop screw.

        The fuel system should be tested via the suite of tests in the Bentley manual
        as invalid rail pressure can be a contributor to idle and starting problems. A
        simple injector check is to pull the injectors, jumper the fuel relay to run
        the pump, and see if the injectors are leaking. You can also point the
        injectors into a towel, remove the coil wire, and crank the engine to see if
        all of the injectors appear to be spraying in a similar fashion. The best
        approach to possible injector problems is to have the injectors cleaned and
        flow tested. Since raw fuel can or will be released in these tests, have a
        fire extinguisher handy.

        While a bad check valve in the high pressure pump can result in longer than
        normal cranking, if the fuel system is working as it is supposed to the rail
        will reach normal pressure in a few turns of the engine. A weak pump, clogged
        filter or leaking FPR in conjunction with a failed check valve can result in
        longer cranking.

        The O2 sensor can be a contributor to idle problems. The O2 sensor is a
        scheduled maintenance item with a useful life of no more than 100k. If the
        sensor has that mileage or more (or is of unknown age), replace it.

        The AFM can be a contributor. If the vane doesn't move freely or the
        resistance track is worn the DME may be receiving invalid data from the
        AFM. And if someone has fiddled with the bypass air adjustment the DME may be
        unable to stabilize idle. The bypass air adjustment should only be adjusted
        per the procedure in the Bentley and with an exhaust gas analyzer. And even
        then everything else associated with engine management has to first be
        operating properly. If the AFM becomes a suspect, replacement with a good used
        unit is the best approach.

        Improperly adjusted or malfunctioning valves will affect idle and starting. As
        can compression issues from ring or cylinder wear. A valve adjustment is
        called for every 15k. A useful diagnostic is to run compression (dry and wet)
        and leak down tests on the engine. Aged ignition wires, plugs, distributor
        cap, or rotor can cause problems. Insulation does break down with time and
        heat. And since the youngest E30 is going on 20 years old, if the ignition
        system is original or the plugs are old replacement is indicated.

        Although not usually a problem, a bad DME temp sensor is a possibility. That
        generally won't cause an unstable idle, but can cause hard cold or hard hot
        starts and/or a rough idle. As can problems with the timing reference
        sensors. Although not commonly encountered, a bad harmonic balancer on an
        M20B25 or M30 engine will cause problems.

        When all other possibilities have been eliminated and idle or starting
        problems persist, replacement of the DME, or if applicable the ICM, is
        indicated.
        The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
        Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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          #5
          This is awesome. I'll start going down the list. Thanks a lot. BTW there is no apparent problem with the O2 sensor. I just unplugged it because the car runs much smoother without it.

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