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  • Ceeker
    R3VLimited
    • Sep 2009
    • 2821

    #16
    Originally posted by Jaxx_
    you'll never hear the injectors over m20 valve noise... you'd have to have an amazing ear.
    I beg to differ. If the valves are truly adjusted properly providing there isn't excessive wear on head components you will only hear the injectors firing. older models were known for valve noise inherent of the technology.

    M20's making valve noise is barely audible and can be confused with injector noise. If the valve adjustment has not been performed and neglected then it will be painfully obvious sound drowning out anything else.

    providing your head is good and there is no excessive wear the noise should go away or become considerably less. But you won't eliminate it completely.

    Crank the radio up! works well...lol
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    • MR 325
      Moderator
      • Oct 2003
      • 37825

      #17
      I fucking promise you that a perfectly adjusted and well kept M20 engine WILL still make valve noise.

      That's how they are, period.
      BimmerHeads
      Classic BMW Specialists
      Santa Clarita, CA

      www.BimmerHeads.com

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      • jlevie
        R3V OG
        • Nov 2006
        • 13530

        #18
        Originally posted by MR 325
        I fucking promise you that a perfectly adjusted and well kept M20 engine WILL still make valve noise.

        That's how they are, period.
        Not true. Well, you will hear valve noise until the engine is fully up to temperature but it should not make valve noise after that. That presumes that the cam, cam bearings, rockers, and valve guides aren't worn. Unless a "race quality" rebuild has been done, the odds are that most heads will have worn parts and will make noise.
        The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
        Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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        • Ceeker
          R3VLimited
          • Sep 2009
          • 2821

          #19
          Originally posted by jlevie
          Not true. Well, you will hear valve noise until the engine is fully up to temperature but it should not make valve noise after that. That presumes that the cam, cam bearings, rockers, and valve guides aren't worn. Unless a "race quality" rebuild has been done, the odds are that most heads will have worn parts and will make noise.
          ^+1 to that. :-)
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          • E30_fiend
            R3V OG
            • Apr 2006
            • 7348

            #20
            .008 on an ice cold motor.

            nice and toit
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            • Killacortes
              E30 Mastermind
              • May 2010
              • 1937

              #21
              Originally posted by E30_fiend
              .008 on an ice cold motor.

              nice and toit
              do you really think it helps? i usually just do what bentley says .25mm
              Originally posted by blunttech
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              • paperplane94
                E30 Addict
                • Jul 2011
                • 420

                #22
                Originally posted by E30_fiend
                .008 on an ice cold motor.

                nice and toit
                NO!!!

                It's much better to have loosely adjusted valves rather than tight because if they are too tight you may end up burning valves.

                It makes sense, right?

                The loosely adjusted valve is touching the head for a little bit longer which allows for heat transfer from the valve to the head.

                The tightly adjusted valve is more susceptible to burning because it contains the heat in the valve as opposed to transferring the heat to the surrounding metal of the valve seat.


                .25mm is good enough for an ice cold engine anyway.
                Don't like valve noise? Invest in a new camshaft, and rocker arms.

                Or you can 24v it.

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                • sweet6e30
                  E30 Addict
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 531

                  #23
                  i have a rebuilt head with a brand new cam and brand new valves and rocker arms and eccentrics, adjusted to spec, valve noise is minimal, and i hear the injectors more.

                  I like the fact that the motor makes good sounds, things are running properly.
                  my build here ---> http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...ht=lemans+blue

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                  • achtunge30
                    E30 Enthusiast
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 1029

                    #24
                    I just completed my first valve adjustment last night...I used to own an m42 and never had to worry about these things :P

                    Mine were adjusted too tight...could not even fit .008 in between eccentric and rockers - adjusted to .25mm and I think its even quieter than before and idles smoother!
                    - Frank
                    '87 325ic M-Tech 1 For Sale!
                    http://r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=407503
                    Build Thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=229347

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                    • E30_fiend
                      R3V OG
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 7348

                      #25
                      A loosely adjusted valve will make MORE noise and cause you to lose power. The OP wanted to quiet them down. I know 100's of guys who have adjusted to .008 and have had no problems whatsoever.


                      Taylor
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                      • long tall eta
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 1536

                        #26
                        if it aint tickin, it's broke.
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                        • ///M42 sport
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 3952

                          #27
                          I swear I have more ticking after I adjusted the valves?!
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