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  • Simontibbett
    Advanced Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 127

    #1

    325E Smoke at Startup/Rough Running

    Bought a 87 325E yesterday, runs good for the most part, when you first start it after getting cooled off the car smokes bad for a minute and runs rough, seems flooded almost, then after you get going it clears out.

    Then occasionally while driving the car will stumble and miss as if it's running out of gas, still runs and drives, just misses.

    Any ideas? PO said he replaced the cap and rotor. Also the cold start injector.

    Could it be a fuel pump? Injectors? Filter?
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  • jlevie
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2006
    • 13530

    #2
    What color is the smoke?
    The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
    Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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    • Simontibbett
      Advanced Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 127

      #3
      Can't tell I've only started it at night, looks gray though, doesn't smell like oil either.
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      • 7pilot
        E30 Addict
        • Feb 2009
        • 475

        #4
        Two suspects:
        1, Bad valve stem seals if oil smoke.
        2, Head gasket failure if acrid white smoke. (specifically a pressure differential leak from a coolant passage into a combustion chamber when the engine is off)

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        • Simontibbett
          Advanced Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 127

          #5
          OK now the car won't start.

          Drove it Saturday and it ran fine, didn't start it Sunday or Monday, today I try and nothing, turns over but doesn't even sputter.

          The only thing I touched was making a catch can for the valve cover to TB tube, I can't see that making it not start.

          Where to start? It's dark so haven't checked spark/fuel yet, one note I also don't hear the pump priming. I did find two sensors loose, the one under the throttle body was actually off and DRENCHED in oil.

          I also noticed the air filter box came loose and two pins are undone, would that effect it at all?
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          • jlevie
            R3V OG
            • Nov 2006
            • 13530

            #6
            You did plug the inlet for the breather hose in the throttle body, right?

            You won't hear the pump prime, because an E30 doesn't prime the pump. The pump only runs when the DME sees timing data from a rotating engine.

            Check for spark, fuel pump operation, and for correct fuel rail pressure. If you have those three, the next candidate is a largish intake leak or a bad AFM.
            The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
            Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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            • paperplane94
              E30 Addict
              • Jul 2011
              • 420

              #7
              Could it be a fuel restriction. i.e. fuel filter.


              Its important that you check the rail pressure properly, you WILL find what your looking for if you do.

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              • Simontibbett
                Advanced Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 127

                #8
                I did plug the inlet.

                I'll check all the basics tomorrow I got home too late today,
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                • Simontibbett
                  Advanced Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 127

                  #9
                  OK so just went out to try and start it and it started, took a few tries but it puttered to life then ran on its own, it was missing bad at idle but I didn't have to keep it running.

                  Any ideas? It was quite cold last night, could that have messed with it?
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                  • Simontibbett
                    Advanced Member
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 127

                    #10
                    SO...got the car started again, first try, rough idle, cleared it out and ran well, drove it a while, then it started missing, got on it a little, then BAM shut off, no start, wouldn't start with a push either.

                    Oil has cream in it, blown head gasket or is it from my recently made catch can?
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                    • delatlanta1281
                      Dart Master
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 10317

                      #11
                      Check your main ground maybe?
                      Yours truly,
                      Rich
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                      • Simontibbett
                        Advanced Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 127

                        #12
                        Where is the main ground?

                        Checked coolant tonight and it's clean.

                        Will dig into it tomorrow.
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                        • FLG
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 3165

                          #13
                          If the oil is white and milky you going to need a new head gasket.
                          -Build http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=295277

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                          • Simontibbett
                            Advanced Member
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 127

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FLG
                            If the oil is white and milky you going to need a new head gasket.
                            Not always true at all...

                            It wasn't white either, just a few swirls, which is very common sometimes depending on your crankcase ventilation.
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                            • FLG
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 3165

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Simontibbett
                              Not always true at all...

                              It wasn't white either, just a few swirls, which is very common sometimes depending on your crankcase ventilation.

                              If you pull up the dip stick and the oil is white and milky you will never convince me that its normal.

                              Example

                              Last edited by FLG; 12-03-2011, 07:41 AM.
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