What does it take to wake up the m20b27 "e" motor?

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  • shaferbm
    Mod Crazy
    • Apr 2010
    • 615

    #1

    What does it take to wake up the m20b27 "e" motor?

    I'm considering picking up an 87 325e for a daily. The guy has had it forever and its basically all original. 180k but odo is out, naturally. So we'll see how much ground that holds.
    Any ways it is an e. What does it take to wake these motors up? I mean even as a dd I still want to go a little bit fast.
    I know "i" head and manifold can be added, but don't know much else.
    Help me Judes!

    -'87 325 - ratbox swap http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...77#post3250277 << Check out my Wanted thread
  • Cabriolet
    R3V OG
    • Apr 2010
    • 9620

    #2
    just get a chip and call it a day and make sure you have a 3.25 LSD. beyond that it gets into a huge project.
    Much wow
    I hate 4 doors

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    • dirty thirty
      Grease Monkey
      • Feb 2009
      • 372

      #3
      i head 373 and a chip +1


      Just out trying to build some boost !!
      Stroked and blown 328i @ 15psi

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      • devon.818
        Banned
        • Feb 2011
        • 2937

        #4
        boost

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        • shaferbm
          Mod Crazy
          • Apr 2010
          • 615

          #5
          Originally posted by devon.818
          boost
          Yeah I wish!
          Originally posted by dirty thirty
          i head 373 and a chip +1
          I been reading around and it seems the head and cams are the most popular things. Also maybe i ecu and intake?

          I've basically narrowed it to this 87 eta, or a 90 318i. Which do you think would deliver more fun (also longevity) as a dd? 318 with chip/exhaust, or eta with chip/head?

          -'87 325 - ratbox swap http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...77#post3250277 << Check out my Wanted thread

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          • xwill112x
            Θέλησα έναν τίτλο συνήθειας, απορροφώ για να είμ&#
            • Jan 2009
            • 4237

            #6
            it would be a 91 318i. and defintily get the 91 318
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            • mr.vang
              R3V Elite
              • May 2010
              • 4371

              #7
              3.25 lsd, chip and your set.
              Bought parts from me before? leave your feedback here

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              • shaferbm
                Mod Crazy
                • Apr 2010
                • 615

                #8
                The 318 is a late model of course which like a sheep I'm also partial too. In contrast though, I do love the m20 and it's bulletproof-ness. We'll see how this ends up when I look at them both.

                Though from what I've read the 2.7i can be a real blast with the torques and drivability. Comments?

                -'87 325 - ratbox swap http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...77#post3250277 << Check out my Wanted thread

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                • MR 325
                  Moderator
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 37825

                  #9
                  The 2.7i is a lot better than the internet leads you to believe. The one a friend of mine built (with one of the heads I sell) was awesome and definitely rivaled a M20B25 engine.
                  BimmerHeads
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                  Santa Clarita, CA

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                  • etaanyone?
                    Noobie
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 5

                    #10
                    I've got an eta.
                    It's got a Turner chip and a 3.25lsd, plus the better 325i exhaust.

                    It woke up. Butt dyno feels a big difference, and the increased rev limiter is good.
                    Plus, it's all usable power. Sure, it's down a bit from the b25 (~145 w/ chip), but it's got torque to make up for it (almost 200 ft/lb, w/ chip).

                    Bang for your buck says eta.

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                    • smyleboyd
                      E30 Enthusiast
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1164

                      #11
                      M42 makes a good DD. Great gas milage. That is if it's a healthy m42. Just look into both and see which one you like more.

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                      • CHIF8008
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 3447

                        #12
                        my b27 gets great MPG

                        37 hwy
                        -FREEDOM- is cruisin at 80, windows down and listening to the perfect song-thinking "this is it"
                        -The Beauty in the Tragedy-
                        MECHANIC SMASH!!- (you all know you do it)
                        Got Drop?? ;-)
                        Originally posted by JinormusJ
                        But of course
                        E30s are know to be notoriously really really really ridiculously good looking

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                        • camip
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 1253

                          #13
                          Go with the eta I have an 85 with a turner chip and love it. Of course it could be faster everybody acts like Fred flinstone would smoke a eta.

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                          • cheapshot
                            E30 Addict
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 451

                            #14
                            Originally posted by shaferbm
                            Though from what I've read the 2.7i can be a real blast with the torques and drivability. Comments?
                            This. They are a blast. I have an eta now with a Mark D chip, custom coilovers, billys, z3 shifter, vert front sway, etc. It is a blast to drive but I also have a 731 head at the machine shop right now and it is going on along with the b25 intake etc. If you dont feel like going into it that deep, I would definitely recommend the chip, it made a huge difference. I have put chips in other cars in the past, and outside of a turbo car, this made the biggest difference of any car I have driven pre and post chip.

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                            • shaferbm
                              Mod Crazy
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 615

                              #15
                              Cool. Also, don't some swap in a 173 ecu after the head swap so the can rev to 7k? And after those things would an i chip be required? @cheapshot I'm thinking I would eventually end up going that deep into but would start with just chip, lsd and such.

                              Also, what are the benefits of 731 over 885 and vice versa?

                              -'87 325 - ratbox swap http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...77#post3250277 << Check out my Wanted thread

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