Good enough compression for a head swap?

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  • camip
    E30 Fanatic
    • Nov 2011
    • 1253

    #1

    Good enough compression for a head swap?

    I recently ran a compression cylinders 1, 2, 3, 5, and 6 were all about just at 90psi. Cylinder however is around the high 70s to low 80s the couple times I tested. The question is should I rebuild the bottom before I swap in a 885 head. I was planning on swapping the head seeing if I liked the combo then rebuilding everything later and possibly turbo.
  • jlevie
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2006
    • 13530

    #2
    Those would be extremely low compression numbers. A leak down test and a wet compression test should tell if the problem is cylinder/ring wear or leaking valves.
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    • camip
      E30 Fanatic
      • Nov 2011
      • 1253

      #3
      Now I'm not sure if I was doing it correctly. Fuck or my motor is shit.

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      • camip
        E30 Fanatic
        • Nov 2011
        • 1253

        #4
        Are you suppose to do the compression test when the engine is warm or?

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        • slippery
          Grease Monkey
          • Nov 2011
          • 373

          #5
          Warm engine.

          J

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          • camip
            E30 Fanatic
            • Nov 2011
            • 1253

            #6
            Fuck I read online and said nothing about being warm. I'll re-test and see what happens. Where should the psi be in range. I've read about 150psi.

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            • UserError
              Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 86

              #7
              150 would be good. After a first test, put a little (less than a capful) of oil into the spark plug holes, and re-run the test. If the number goes up significantly, then the rings are worn, and you'll want a full rebuild. If the number doesn't change much, then the low compression is in the head, and a head swap would do you a whole world of good.

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              • camip
                E30 Fanatic
                • Nov 2011
                • 1253

                #8
                ^ that's what I'm hoping for. Those compression numbers can't be right or my car would be a turd.

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                • whodwho
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 1547

                  #9
                  Those are really low numbers and would be a turd. I would suspect a low reading compression gauge or not getting enough air into the cyl. Are you opening the throttle when cranking? How many revolutions are you cranking it for?

                  The low numbers may not be an issue but the fact that you have lower compression in one hole is a concern. A leakdown test should be your next approach.
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                  • StereoInstaller1
                    GAS
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 22679

                    #10
                    Make sure the throttle is fully open when cranking the motor

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                    • camip
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 1253

                      #11
                      I had the throttle fully open. I I'll grab another compression gauge and a leak down tester. Just sucks the car is 2.5 hours away :(

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                      • unevolved
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 714

                        #12
                        Originally posted by whodwho
                        The low numbers may not be an issue but the fact that you have lower compression in one hole is a concern. A leakdown test should be your next approach.
                        This. With as many variables as there are to a compression test, all it can reliably tell you (unless you're following a very specific procedure) is whether or not a cylinder is worse than the others.
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                        • whodwho
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 1547

                          #13
                          Originally posted by camip
                          I had the throttle fully open. I I'll grab another compression gauge and a leak down tester. Just sucks the car is 2.5 hours away :(
                          Did you bump it thru 5-6 revs until the gauge stopped rising? And you want to keep the same count per cyl.
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                          4 Sale - Fully Built TurnKey Megasquirt Plug and Play EMS

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                          • camip
                            E30 Fanatic
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 1253

                            #14
                            Originally posted by whodwho
                            Did you bump it thru 5-6 revs until the gauge stopped rising? And you want to keep the same count per cyl.
                            I did it about 5-6 revs but I'm not sure I did them all the same. I'll redo the test next time I'm home with scientific precision.

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