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    M20B20 L-Jetronic No Start (Fuel Pump Relay Problem & Solution)


    Was hunting an electrical gremlin for the longest no-start i've ever had. Previous no-starts that were eventually hunted down were huge vacuum leaks and flooded plugs. This latest no-start lasted 5 days before i managed to track it down.

    It begins with me jacking up the car to apply fresh paint, seam sealer and underseal. I also fiddled with the ECU harness. After assembling everything back, it wouldn't start. It would start for a split second before stalling.

    (Later, I realised that it was because of the cold start injector)

    I (thought I) had fuel at the cold start injector, but didn't check the rest of the injectors.

    Frantically troubleshooted everything from Throttle Body to TPS to Ignition Coil to Distributor to Rotor to MAF to Plug cables and finally plugs but everything seemed alright. Car had spark but simply wouldn't start. I took the opportunity to drill a hole in the TPS to reduce oil build up.

    Ran to the hardware store to pick up a voltmeter for $4 and began measuring resistance checks across all components. All were well within specifications.

    Figured it might be the Fuel Pump/Main Relay so I went to a couple of junkyards but couldn't find said relay. Pursued other possibilities as I waited for Monday(today) to check with the dealers.


    Did some googling on the said p/n: 0280230001, and turns out some alfa's and ferrari's running on L-Jet's used it. And the price was an astounding $170 on ebay.

    More tests with the Voltmeter revealed that when the relay was triggered i was getting 12v power on pin 87b which powers the pump, but only 0.33v at pin 87 which powers the injector. Weird... both pins are supposed to be energised when the circuit is live.

    Fast forward Monday, several dealers had it in stock but not the original Bosch but a KAE variant. Online reviews urged to stay away from the KAE's citing poor QC and it not functioning like the Bosch. Made a call to several notable BMW enthusiasts and received a quote ranging from $25 to $65.

    But I wanted to double confirm it was my relay that was at fault. So after getting back from work, I connect a wire from pin 87 to 87b and start the engine... And lo-behold IT'S ALIVE!!

    I decide to try to pry open the relay to see if it was salvageable. Certain parties reported success by resoldering similar relays and I simply wanted to try my luck before splashing my moolah. Anyway, on to the pics.

    I use a saw to saw along the groove of the relay, repeating on all 4 sides.


    I pay attention not to saw into the PCB, and after all 4 sides are done, I gently pry it open and the PCB slides out.


    Upon further examination of the solder joints, I spot 1 particular joint that had oxidised and traced it back to pin 87. Bingo.


    I break out the soldering iron and take no prisoners as I resolder all main joints.


    And am left with not the best work but at least fresh solder. I test continuity to ensure that no solders overlap. I don't want to cause a mini fire.


    I proceed to hook it up to the connector and fire up the car. It roars to life.


    I then mix up some epoxy and reseal the relay back into its housing.


    While i'm at it, I replace the brittle and aging connector with a fresher that doesn't disintegrate upon contact.


    And I'm glad to report that my car is running again, better than before thanks to my troubleshooting that cleaned up the distributor contacts, rotor and found a loose spark plug.
    Last edited by Raja_Mongkut; 06-30-2014, 11:57 AM.

    #2
    Hello there.

    I might ask you as I see there is snth similar to what I have going on.
    I had my whole harness unplugged. And car stayed like that for few months inside my workshop where I detail cars, water etc :/ not smartest of my moves.

    Anyway, so now when I have changed engine components I tried to put everything back together (I had before pictures captured of disassembly. Engine did not start, only starter was firing. Then I found few connections bot connected. Done that. Tried firing, engine was starting but for a short. My original BMW security system which did not work before started to switch randomly central locking somehow when I put key in ignition and half turn.
    Now when I try to start, all I hear a working fuel pump and that sane relay you had problems with constantly *clack* *clack* *clack*....

    I will check tomorrow but perhaps you have any suggestions?

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      #3
      Engine starting for a while means the cold start injector and fuel pump is working... Which also means you have spark...

      Cold start injector and fuel pump is power via pin 87 on main relay, while injectors are powered by 87B (or vice versa). In my case it was a bad solder connection on 87B. You could try jumping 87 and 87B together and see if that works. If it doesn't check for voltage on injectors, measure continuity on ignition coil, check distributor rotor and plugs or cable. See if your TpS is working correctly.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Raja_Mongkut View Post
        Engine starting for a while means the cold start injector and fuel pump is working... Which also means you have spark...

        Cold start injector and fuel pump is power via pin 87 on main relay, while injectors are powered by 87B (or vice versa). In my case it was a bad solder connection on 87B. You could try jumping 87 and 87B together and see if that works. If it doesn't check for voltage on injectors, measure continuity on ignition coil, check distributor rotor and plugs or cable. See if your TpS is working correctly.
        Do you happen to have the readings it has to show? (voltage and such for those tasks?)

        P.S. Beg my pardon, i am completely green guy on all electronic things, just bought a multimeter and trying to figure out things myself, but would not want to burn anything... :) And while you say "Jumping, means connecting those 2 with wire and plugging relay back on?

        meanwhile will try to dig out the specs myself :) Maybe i am lucky to get it fast enough ^.^

        Thanks for the reply tho!

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          #5
          I have taken apart my rellay and i have found that connections are oxidized too. Will bring it to a guy to resolder them and see if that helps. As to other things, lookinng for someone who knows how to use multimeter right , as i am a sucker at electronics :)

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            #6
            ETM source

            Norbert ,if you havent already download the ETM for your car (ETM electronic troubleshooting manual) and study the first 10 pages it has a good description of how to use the manual and common test descriptions of multimeter/DVOM use . and im sure there are many youtube video's on them also ....

            ETM download here http://www.wedophones.com/BMWManualsLead.htm

            OP nice job on the Diagnosis and solution!
            Angus
            88 E30M3 X2
            89 325IX
            92 R100GS/PD
            :)

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              #7
              Originally posted by spdracrm3 View Post
              Norbert ,if you havent already download the ETM for your car (ETM electronic troubleshooting manual) and study the first 10 pages it has a good description of how to use the manual and common test descriptions of multimeter/DVOM use . and im sure there are many youtube video's on them also ....

              ETM download here http://www.wedophones.com/BMWManualsLead.htm

              OP nice job on the Diagnosis and solution!
              I bow before you Mr! :O thanks alot!

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