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    E30 Weak Injector Signal!

    Hello there! I have a 1986 325 eta with the 2.7 engine. I recently did a motor swap using a junkyard motor from a 1987 528e. My car has the Motronic 1.0 green label system with the 35 pin ecu.

    I am to the point where I am trying to start this motor for the first time! However it is not firing. The motor cranks over just fine, and I have spark, and fuel to the rail. I unhooked a the wires that go to injectors 1 & 2 and used a test light bulb while a person was cranking the motor to see if I had pulsing. Well it is pulsing, BUT it's extremely weak and you have to look closely at the filament of the bulb to even see anything. I used this same test light on the cold start injector connection on the passenger side of the intake and it lit up bright.

    So, I proceeded to disconnect the main ecu thinking that was my culprit. While I had it disconnected, I did some tests with a multimeter. My conclusions are that pin #35 of the harness that plugs into the computer, which should be injector ground, is not working. When I ground out the multimeter to pin 35 and plug the other end into pins 14 or 15 (which are for the injectors) I get nothing. However when I change my ground to pin #17 (which is another ground used by the computer but not for the injectors), I get 12 volts.

    I used this for reference http://www.rtsauto.com/ecu-pinout-an...cal-tests-e30/

    So essentially what I am asking is what grounds out pin #35?! So hopefully I can find a disconnected ground somewhere and hook it back up.

    PS I also tested for power on the injector side by using a good known ground (pin 17 on ecu harness) and I have 12 volts on both ports of the injector receptacle with the ignition on.

    THANK YOU to anyone that can make sense of this !!!! Sorry for such a long drawn out post lol

    #2
    Originally posted by codyep3
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      #3
      Pin 35 on the ecu is the switch main power input. This pin should be hot/12v with the key in run and start only. Pin 35 gets its power from the main relay. PIN 35 IS NOT AN INJECTOR GROUND. The main relay also powers all of the injectors and engine electronics. Once all the injectors have power the ecu then grounds pin 14 & 15 to fire the injectors. With the key in run, ground pin 14 or 15. One bank of injectors should click per a pin(3 injectors control by pin14 the other 3 are pin 15). Also make sure that your main relay is the correct double 87 relay and not the 87/87a relay.

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        #4
        Wow really helpful resource thank you

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          #5
          Originally posted by RobDog View Post
          Pin 35 on the ecu is the switch main power input. This pin should be hot/12v with the key in run and start only. Pin 35 gets its power from the main relay. PIN 35 IS NOT AN INJECTOR GROUND. The main relay also powers all of the injectors and engine electronics. Once all the injectors have power the ecu then grounds pin 14 & 15 to fire the injectors. With the key in run, ground pin 14 or 15. One bank of injectors should click per a pin(3 injectors control by pin14 the other 3 are pin 15). Also make sure that your main relay is the correct double 87 relay and not the 87/87a relay.
          Okay yeah so I guess that link I posted was wrong.. Hmm I am leaning towards a ground issue now but earlier I grounded out pins 14 and 15 using pin 17 as ground, I got 12 volts on my multimeter and heard no clicking? I had a friend out his ear down by the injectors

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            #6
            I would check the ecu's main ground pins 5,10,16,17,&19. I would also check that the injectors are getting good power;Then check for continuity between the injector ground pin at the injector plugs to the ecu pins 14 and 15. Also the eta use low impedance injectors. Low impedance injectors take alot current to initially open but then the current drops to hold them open (peak & hold). Its possible that your ecu's injector driver has fried or does not have the power to open your injectors anymore. The cold start injector shares its power with the other injectors. Since the cold start injector plug lights up bright with a test light, I would think that your problem would be with a bad ground, ecu, or wires to the injectors.
            Last edited by RobDog; 12-06-2014, 12:20 AM.

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