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    #16
    Updating. Slowly but surely it was getting worse and worse. So I did some searching and read that if the o2 sensor is disconnected the ecu will run on default. So the other day I was really frustrated and grabbed my knife and cut the wiring that somebody had done (wasn't very well done and didn't have a connector anywhere). Ran great aside from idling higher. But it gave me enough to realize an issue. I plan to install an o2 and correct wiring as well as a plug for easy connection and disconnection. I also plan to replace the o2 heater relay. Thanks for everyone's ideas

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      #17
      Originally posted by Ether-D View Post
      It also sounds like your icv is sticking. Remove it and wash it out.
      Will this being dirty cause the idle to be at 1,000 rpms? And have no brake pedal while in drive but a firm pedal in park? I just bought my first BMW. And I'm having this issue.
      88 d21 draggin pavement
      89 dirty30 kissin earth

      Im just here to learn new things and meet new people.

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        #18
        That sounds like a vacuum leak to me.
        Originally posted by Andy.B
        Whenever I am about to make a particularly questionable decision regarding a worryingly cheap diy solution, I just ask myself, "What would Ether-D do?"
        1987 325iS m30b34 Muscle car (Engine electrical phase)
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          #19
          That's what I'm thinking also. I have been busy and getting my truck running for this weekend. So I'll check later this weekend for leaks. It's only thing keeping me from daily driving it.
          88 d21 draggin pavement
          89 dirty30 kissin earth

          Im just here to learn new things and meet new people.

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            #20
            Something to read from Spece30 forum:

            The idle switch should close when the throttle stop is 1mm off the idle speed screw. That tells the DME that the engine is idling and accordingly what fuel map to use and to use the ICV for speed control. When the idle speed screw is correctly adjusted the engine speed should be 950rpm with the ICV disconnected and drop to 750rpm when the ICV is connected if the idle switch in the TPS is correctly adjusted. So on an engine at normal operating temperature, you adjust the stop screw for 950rpm. Then adjust the TPS so that the idle switch closes when the stop arm is 1mm off the stop screw. While you can check the TPS at it's pins, the best check is made at the DME connector. That eliminates any possibility of a faulty engine harness interfering with those signals.

            The WOT switch should close at about 40% of full throttle, as I recall. When the WOT switch closes the DME shifts to a different map and ignores O2 sensor data. At 4500 rpm the DME stops using AFM data as the flap should be fully open. From there to the redline the DME uses only engine coolant temperature and rpm for fuel delivery and spark advance. I think the DME uses a different map from 4500rpm up, but I've heard conflicting opinions on that.

            All of the maps are subject to learned fuel trim, which is based on O2 sensor data taken at part throttle. Since an aged, but operable, O2 sensor typically indicates a leaner mixture than actually exists and we don't have catalytic converters that can be damaged by high HC in the exhaust, there can be a slight benefit from using a aged sensor.

            Understand that learned fuel trim and fault codes are stored in volatile memory and are lost if the DME looses un-switched power. If your kill switch disconnects all power, every time you turn off the switch that data is lost.

            The WOT switch is important. If the DME doesn't see that data the engine will run a bit lean above 4500rpm with a consequent loss of power.

            Oil can, and will, leak into the TPS. The switches are simple open metal parts and oil will interfere with their operation. I highly recommend drilling a 1/8-3/16" hole in the center of the round boss on the bottom of the TPS. That gives the oil a place to escape and makes the TPS last a lot longer.

            If desired, you can plug the hose from the ICV to the throttle body (best solution) or disconnect the ICV and use the stop screw to set a higher idle. The downside is that you may have to hold some throttle in cold weather until the engine warms up a bit. The upside is that the water pump will be spinning a bit faster and be moving more coolant. That helps to keep the peak engine temp from spiking so high in a red flag situation. I liked an idle of 1200-1500rpm.

            Also, I had some similar problems with my e30 sometime ago. I found that I had water in the connector for the fuel injector harness (underneath the intake manifold). As well as some water inside the o2 sensor harness connector. when I resolved the moisture issues it ran 100% better. I did adjust my TPS so that it worked when the throttle closed, this helped in smoothing the idle. It stopped hunting for idle (RPM's jumping up and down).
            I hope any of this helps!
            Last edited by wilholl; 05-20-2016, 05:35 PM.
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