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    M20 Lopey Idle After Timing Belt Change

    1992 325i convertible

    Guys,

    Having a problem with a "lopey" idle after a timing belt change. Did a lot of research on this forum and got some good information, but no cure.

    My local indy shop made the change, then the car was stored and later shipped to Florida. I haven't driven too many miles, but noticed a rough idle. This is new...it ran fine before the change. I've checked everything that could cause the problem (vacuum leaks, compression, valve adjustment, temp sensor, O2 sensor) and replaced ignition wires, spark plugs, cap, rotor, throttle position switch - which was bad, intake air "boot" and injectors) but to no avail. The car runs fine under load, but at idle it sounds like it has a cam or a weak cylinder. At 600 rpm idle the frequency of the "miss" is about 300 beats per minute...so I thought it was a weak cylinder or a bad injector. Compression checks out ok and new injectore were installed.

    But, because the problem persists, I'm starting to suspect the workmanship of my local indy shop. Could they have installed the new timing belt off by a tooth or two? Some threads alude to similar problems. Now, I'm trying to figure out how far I have to tear into the engine to confirm the "timing" of the belt. So far, I think I have to pull the hood, fan clutch, radiator, hoses in front of the upper belt cover, cap , rotor and upper belt cover to expose the cam gear. Then, set the crank pulley to TDC and check the timing mark on the cam gear. Or, can I get enough precision of the cam rotation location from the ignition rotor? Are there any timing marks on the upper belt cover or rotor dust cover to indicate the rotor position at TDC?

    By my calculations, one tooth off is about 7.5 degrees which could easily cause idle problems, but not necessarily driveability problems. Can the rotor position give me enough accuracy?

    What are your thoughts?
    '88 M3
    '91 Cabrio
    '92 Cabrio
    '91 325 IX

    #2
    Hood is def. not necessary. Pull the fan clutch, cap and rotor. Then the only other thing you should have to pull is the upper cam cover - maybe the upper rad hose - the metal one. but once you get the upper cover off you'll be able to see the mark on the cam gear.
    You can see the mark on the crank without taking anything off.

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      #3
      You're 100% sure there is no vacuum leak?
      Swanny!
      SUCKERS.

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        #4
        M20 Lopey Idle After Timing Belt Change

        Removing the hood makes this a lot easier. And yes, you need to remove everything you mentioned to get at the timing belt including the crank pulley. This will make it easier to see the mark on the crank.

        I had to replace my water pump about a year ago and when I was in there replacing the timing belt I noticed that the timing was retarded by one tooth. Before I fixed it the car had a lumpy idle and was terrible in cold weather. Ran great once I replaced the tensioner/belt and properly adjusted the timing.

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        Last edited by itsonlygeorge; 04-17-2016, 04:02 PM.
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