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    intermittent no start... driving me nuts

    I have an intermittent “no start” condition that is driving me crazy. Any thoughts would be appreciated. This for a 1984 Euro 323i. Note that this is an early Euro E30, so there are a few unusual-ish things about it (no crank position sensor, for example, it uses the transistorized ignition even though it’s an M20 engine).

    SYMPTOMS:
    + Most times the car starts no problem.
    + Occasionally, maybe 1 in 15 times, I get no start on a warm engine (car has been sitting for about 30 to 60 minutes). For the no start…
    + The starter turns the engine over nice and strong.
    + I have spark
    + I can smell fuel after a few start attempts
    + I can push start the car, and it starts every time (you know, push it fast enough and pop the clutch in 2nd gear… it starts every time).
    + It seems, though I’m not certain, that if I let the engine get completely cold it does start for me… I’ve “waited out” the issue a couple of times.
    + Once the car is started, it runs great… no idle issues, no issues while driving, nothing.

    THINGS I’VE THOUGHT ABOUT:
    + Fuel filter? New-ish, so I haven’t replaced it again.
    + Fuel pump? Thought I’d have had drivability issues at other random times, instead of just a starting issue? And why would this be circumvented by a push start?
    + Fuel pump relay? Maybe, but why would this be circumvented with a push start?
    + Ignition switch? Circumvented that with a jumper wire right from the ignition coil to the battery, but still the same issues.

    OTHER “KNOWN” ENGINE ISSUES:
    There are a few items on the “to do” list with the engine. I don’t think they’re relevant, but I’ll list them just in case…
    + Faulty oil level sensor.
    + Bad coolant temp reading; haven’t tracked it down to determine if it’s the SI Board, wiring, or sensor (I get a “less than blue” reading on the gauge at all times).

    Anyway, I’ve got to solve this issue as it’s my daily driver and I use it to go to business meetings as well as just back and forth to work. My expert mechanics, who know older BMWs better than anyone I’ve every run across, have not been able to observe the problem (start every time I bring it to them!) so they’re stumped, too.

    Any added advice? Thanks ahead of time.
    Last edited by G-MAC; 08-22-2008, 09:39 PM. Reason: formatting screwed up
    '87 325ic daily driver and current obsession
    '84 Euro 323i driving around Ohio
    '87 535is rolling around somewhere in Utah
    '89 635csi sold to a nice kid taking good care of it
    '87 325is hit by a schoolbus, may it rest in peace

    #2
    I have the same thing happening to me right now. I'm 90% sure it's something to do with the ignition cables, Ive just bee too busy to check it out yet.

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      #3
      mine has a hard warm start once every couple months, i read somewhere that it could be leaky fuel injectors.


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