Turbo build, need some advice

[Farbin Kaiber]

no he didnt scare me off. he just needs to go get the sand out of his vagina. you are serioulsy worse then the honda guys. im guessing that when someone who is new and asks a simple question he gets bashed around here. Sorry i didnt instantly learn everything about BMW's the second i got one. thanks for the guys who actually decided to answer my question or actually give me advice.

If you at least search first, we won't care that your an idiot.

[StreetRacerS360]

I think you scared him off

and I would start with an m30 swap + TCD stg2 kit. That would make for a stupid fast e30, prolly 300whp (guess)

no he didnt scare me off. he just needs to go get the sand out of his vagina. you are serioulsy worse then the honda guys. im guessing that when someone who is new and asks a simple question he gets bashed around here. Sorry i didnt instantly learn everything about BMW's the second i got one. thanks for the guys who actually decided to answer my question or actually give me advice.

[whiltebeitel]

I agree 100% about the recipe, but make that dollar number $5k by the time you are done piecing the car together, nothing more (not yet tuned/drivable). This is assuming you shop good deals on all parts, do your own fabrication work (welding, grinding, drilling, tapping etc), all of your own mechanics work (wrenching), all of your own electrical installation work (wiring megasquirt, wiring gauges, interfacing with cluster) and all of your own engine tuning (VE map, ignition map, warmup settings, idle valve settings, rev limit settings, accel enrich, cranking pulsewidths, etc etc)

There are more parts like clutch, fuel pump, injectors, wideband, turbo oil line kit, miscellaneous welding and wiring, wideband gauge, boost gauge, and possibly custom oil cooler in case you have to relocate it.

Well, I figured that went without saying.

The above are reason why I pussed out on doing a turbo build.

AJ, great idea. I got my ass busted on E30Tech a few years back, looking at turbo stuff, then I researched it, , bought parts, researched some more, and aborted while I still have some money for school.

[Farbin Kaiber]

I enjoy this way too much. You see, I'm actually searching, and researching this same build. I didn't post a thread that would only lead to those two answers, search and research. This being the first thread that came up, it's been more than entertaining.

"Holset HX35+666 fab manifold adapter+MegaSquirt+custom exhaust+ebay intercooler, wastegate&BOV= turbo M20 E30 recipie. That'll cost you about $3,500 and you'll have about 300 whp with a good tune, more if you were very smart about what you got."

That helped a bit. But believe it or not, I'm still doing more research. Call me silly. Call me crazy. I don't like to measure once and cut twice. Maybe my parents instilled this wonder of critical thinking into my processor. Maybe I just don't want to look like an asshole, unless of course it's necessary. Either way, I"m off to do more research.

Cheers,

AJ

Crazy thing is, just look at people's proven setups, and, for FI, the quoted above about sums it up.

[SpecM]

Goddamit, kid, your attitude pisses me off

I think you scared him off

and I would start with an m30 swap + TCD stg2 kit. That would make for a stupid fast e30, prolly 300whp (guess)

[e30frosh]

I enjoy this way too much. You see, I'm actually searching, and researching this same build. I didn't post a thread that would only lead to those two answers, search and research. This being the first thread that came up, it's been more than entertaining.

"Holset HX35+666 fab manifold adapter+MegaSquirt+custom exhaust+ebay intercooler, wastegate&BOV= turbo M20 E30 recipie. That'll cost you about $3,500 and you'll have about 300 whp with a good tune, more if you were very smart about what you got."

That helped a bit. But believe it or not, I'm still doing more research. Call me silly. Call me crazy. I don't like to measure once and cut twice. Maybe my parents instilled this wonder of critical thinking into my processor. Maybe I just don't want to look like an asshole, unless of course it's necessary. Either way, I"m off to do more research.

Cheers,

AJ

[el bob]

Holset HX35+666 fab manifold adapter+MegaSquirt+custom exhaust+ebay intercooler, wastegate&BOV= turbo M20 E30 recipie. That'll cost you about $3,500 and you'll have about 300 whp with a good tune, more if you were very smart about what you got.

I agree 100% about the recipe, but make that dollar number $5k by the time you are done piecing the car together, nothing more (not yet tuned/drivable). This is assuming you shop good deals on all parts, do your own fabrication work (welding, grinding, drilling, tapping etc), all of your own mechanics work (wrenching), all of your own electrical installation work (wiring megasquirt, wiring gauges, interfacing with cluster) and all of your own engine tuning (VE map, ignition map, warmup settings, idle valve settings, rev limit settings, accel enrich, cranking pulsewidths, etc etc)

There are more parts like clutch, fuel pump, injectors, wideband, turbo oil line kit, miscellaneous welding and wiring, wideband gauge, boost gauge, and possibly custom oil cooler in case you have to relocate it.

[Farbin Kaiber]

Requote from an unrelated, but related thread....

I ani't herd of noone goeing thru the hassel of it. With enough enginuity, you could be dun. That hundind hoursepoewr on taps wood bee meen though.

[whiltebeitel]

damn. Is it just me, or is the n00b-bashing getting worse as of late?

SCCA always has an autocross during the sunny months once a month. Google your city and SCCA autocross. it's relatively cheap, and tons of fun.

Turbo: 300 whp in an E30 is a ton. It's epic. DanMartin made 475 whp, but he's running e85, can tune the shit out of anything, and spent tons of money buying the right parts to get his M20 there.

Go look at bender's build if you want a drag race E30. E30Tech has several drag racers, but the suspension design of the E30 is more about rotation and handling than launching.

Unless you're willing to do some innovative fabrication with 40k lying around, you're going to find a hard time making a 600 whp E30 that even dreams of traction.

Holset HX35+666 fab manifold adapter+MegaSquirt+custom exhaust+ebay intercooler, wastegate&BOV= turbo M20 E30 recipie. That'll cost you about $3,500 and you'll have about 300 whp with a good tune, more if you were very smart about what you got.

[dashboardmonkey]

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[Turf1600]

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[Ray Smoodiver]

I think you need to talk to those guys with the 1000hp M3

[FredK]

ya u can get most of the parts at www.jegs.com or www.summitracing.com they have a lot of cool stuff i think lunati makes a turbo grind cam for the m20. maybe some 1.7 to 1 ratio roller rockers and i tink ur good to go.

[atomic]

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[StereoInstaller1]

if you can find me somone with one in daytona beach orlando or Ft.lauderdale or Miami area i would be more then happy to take a ride in one. The car might be light but im going to be taking it to the drag strip quiet often.

Goddamit, kid, your attitude pisses me off.

So let me get this straight...you want US to find YOU a car to get a ride in...as long as it is close by? You sound like a spoiled little rich bitch. What kind of shit is that?

You are an obvious retard.

What the fuck, are you like 16 or what? "StreetRacer" as a fucking screen name? Wow, we are SO impressed.

"I want 600 HP, but I don't want to do a swap, what internals should I use"...so let me get this straight, you think you are qualified to build the fuck out of a bottom end, but yet cannot pull off a swap?

Zero fucking experience in any kind of built car, but now you want an E30 (with 600HP, no less) to drag, auto-x AND drift? Do you realize that those are basically 3 different cars?

My suggestion to you is go buy a Viper. If you have the money to build a 600HP 20 year old entry level BMW that can drag, drift and auto-x, that should be pocket change for you.

Soon as you get out of the hospital after you plow that mopar into a telephone pole, let us know. Maybe then you will start being ready to become teachable.

In the meantime, shut the fuck up and read. Learn some shit before you run your keyboard. We aren't the fucking retard Honda boys, if you wear a fucking hat, wear it straight. Pull your fucking pants up, too.

Oh yeah..."meth injection" would be water and methanol mixed 50/50 and injected into the intake plenum (you do know what a plenum is, don't you?). This cools the intake charge to reduce detonation (pre-ignition, actually, but I don't think we should get too technical here) as well as provides a bit more O2, and the steam cleans the inside of your combustion chambers...but "meth injection" doesn't "sound too safe"