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    #61
    I looked at acouple logs showing it would normally be about 187f.
    It would go up 200f when I beat the shit out of it and go down to 183f when I let it wined down in gear (fuel cut).


    The rating isn't like a switch. It slowly opens and closes.
    and the radiator isn't 100% efficient. So. Allot of slop in the real world 1 step colder works great.
    Last edited by LowR3V'in; 08-30-2016, 07:25 PM.

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      #62
      Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View Post
      What Mishimoto model number/part number are you running?

      Im using the regular e36 mishimoto radiator. Don't have a part number on hand right now


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        #63
        Originally posted by LowR3V'in View Post
        I looked at acouple logs showing it would normally be about 187f.
        It would go up 200f when I beat the shit out of it and go down to 183f when I let it wined down in gear (fuel cut).


        The rating isn't like a switch. It slowly opens and closes.
        and the radiator isn't 100% efficient. So. Allot of slop in the real world 1 step colder works great.
        I understand that it's not a switch, but I am still foggy on how a 70C thermo would provide any more cooling capacity than an 80C. Yes it opens earlier, but it doesn't open more.

        Originally posted by ThatOneEuroE30 View Post
        Im using the regular e36 mishimoto radiator. Don't have a part number on hand right now
        And it fits? Damn, my distributor cap and a/c compressor are like 1/4" from the e28 535i radiator; I couldn't possibly fit a thicker one.

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          #64
          Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View Post
          And it fits? Damn, my distributor cap and a/c compressor are like 1/4" from the e28 535i radiator; I couldn't possibly fit a thicker one.
          i'm in the same boat. Anyone got an overhead photo of an e36 radiator with their m30 swap?
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            #65
            Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View Post
            I understand that it's not a switch, but I am still foggy on how a 70C thermo would provide any more cooling capacity than an 80C. Yes it opens earlier, but it doesn't open more.







            And it fits? Damn, my distributor cap and a/c compressor are like 1/4" from the e28 535i radiator; I couldn't possibly fit a thicker one.


            Originally posted by glnr13 View Post
            i'm in the same boat. Anyone got an overhead photo of an e36 radiator with their m30 swap?

            Yessir






            1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
            1991 318i 4dr slick top


            Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
            Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
            Mtech 2 turbo restoration
            Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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              #66
              i know we're talking about mm's here but it sure does look like your build has more breathing room up front there.

              the e28 535i radiator is pretty thin as it is and I've got 4-5mm between it and the distro.

              Care to measure the depth of your mishimoto rad when you get a chance?
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                #67
                Originally posted by glnr13 View Post
                i know we're talking about mm's here but it sure does look like your build has more breathing room up front there.

                the e28 535i radiator is pretty thin as it is and I've got 4-5mm between it and the distro.

                Care to measure the depth of your mishimoto rad when you get a chance?

                What position do you guys have motors?

                This is my radiator

                An ideal upgrade for the brittle stock BMW radiator, the Mishimoto E30/E36 Performance Aluminum Radiator provides your vehicle with enhanced reliability and improved cooling efficiency. BMWs are known to have frequent cooling-related failures due to the use of numerous plastic components throughout the system. A simple coolant leak can result in overheating, accelerated engine wear, or head gasket failure. Whether you have a daily-driven E36 M3 or an M20 spinning a large turbocharger, this E30 and E36 radiator provides ideal temperatures on and off the track. Most people overlook the importance of installing an upgraded radiator in their vehicle. Along with providing increased coolant capacity, this BMW radiator improves heat dissipation, which is beneficial for both stock and modified applications. The Mishimoto E30/E36 Performance Aluminum Radiator is manufactured using durable aircraft-quality aluminum end tanks, precision TIG-welded to an efficient brazed aluminum core. The inlet and outlets provide precise leak-free connections, and all factory overflow and temperature sensor ports are present on the Mishimoto E30 and E36 radiator for use with stock sensors and hoses. This BMW radiator also includes a M16 x 1.5 Magnetic Oil Drain Plug with dowty seal, which effectively removes metal fragments circulating in the cooling system. The Mishimoto BMW Performance Aluminum Radiator incorporates mounting points for the factory external automatic transmission cooler, and it is a direct bolt-on fit for all 6-cylinder E30/E36 models from 1988 to 1991. As with all our BMW parts, this aluminum BMW radiator includes the Mishimoto Lifetime Warranty, ensuring superior product quality and craftsmanship.


                1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
                1991 318i 4dr slick top


                Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
                Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
                Mtech 2 turbo restoration
                Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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                  #68
                  i've been under the impression that i'm in position #3. Comparing it to other cars it looks more like in between 2 and 3.

                  thanks for the link, now i need to go measure mine when I get home.
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by CorvallisBMW View Post
                    I understand that it's not a switch, but I am still foggy on how a 70C thermo would provide any more cooling capacity than an 80C. Yes it opens earlier, but it doesn't open more.
                    I think the cooler thermostat just gives the system more headroom - ie. the thermo opens earlier, then you can run a lower temp fan switch so the fan kicks in earlier - this keeps the whole system further away from the tipping point when it goes into an overheating situation. As I mentioned earlier - this was a factory option in hot climates, so BMW thought it was worthwhile.

                    The e36 radiator looks a good fit there - I'm with you Corvallis, I don't think I could fit one in my car and supposedly I'm in P3 with e30.de mounts, but realistically I'm probably closer to P2.

                    I'd love an all aluminium mishimoto radiator.
                    My e30: OEM+ with M30B35

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                      #70
                      I'm using Qbang mounts.


                      1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
                      1991 318i 4dr slick top


                      Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
                      Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
                      Mtech 2 turbo restoration
                      Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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                        #71
                        i measured from the front of the radiator that touches the support to the back fins and it measures just about 1 3/4". I'm now considering that mishimoto radiator as my next replacement.
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                          #72
                          Can you get your power steering belt on though?

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by LowR3V'in View Post
                            Can you get your power steering belt on though?

                            Yea I can. Only thing i cant do is replace the alternator without lifting rad up to slide lower bolt in and out.


                            1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
                            1991 318i 4dr slick top


                            Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
                            Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
                            Mtech 2 turbo restoration
                            Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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                              #74
                              Originally posted by ThatOneEuroE30 View Post
                              Yea I can. Only thing i cant do is replace the alternator without lifting rad up to slide lower bolt in and out.
                              I ran into that same issue with that lower bolt when I replaced my alt last year. I flipped that bolt around in case I'm ever in a pinch and need to do it again quickly on the side of the road.
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                                #75
                                Originally posted by glnr13 View Post
                                I ran into that same issue with that lower bolt when I replaced my alt last year. I flipped that bolt around in case I'm ever in a pinch and need to do it again quickly on the side of the road.

                                I tried that but wouldn't work without removing oil filter so just left it as is


                                1989 325is l 1984 euro 320i l 1970 2002 Racecar
                                1991 318i 4dr slick top


                                Euro spec 320i/Alpina B6 3.5 project(the never ending saga)
                                Vintage race car revival (2002 content)
                                Mtech 2 turbo restoration
                                Brilliantrot slick top "build"

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