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  • JoeMadoo
    E30 Modder
    • Aug 2006
    • 936

    #1

    CA BAR Test for Smog

    So I'm sitting here at my registered BAR station on a computer watching my E30M30 being tested... Anyone who lives in CA knows what I'm talkin about, pain in the ass. Hopefully it passes.
    '86 E30
    '05 E53 X5
    '72 Firebird
    '10 Prius
    '03 Tundra
  • etxxz
    R3VLimited
    • Feb 2006
    • 2085

    #2
    gl i just hope those emission regulations don't reach my side of the country.
    No more e30s for me.
    88 black BMW OBDII 332is dedicated track [sold]
    88 BMW OBDII bronzit 332is [RIP 03/08]
    91 BMW 325i [sold]
    86 Corolla 'Ae86' HB 20v trd [sold]
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=pTj7Hn9v5Rs

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    • oldskool3
      E30 Addict
      • Mar 2005
      • 401

      #3
      Results??
      Photoshop by O 16581 72452 5

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      • speedhop
        E30 Mastermind
        • Aug 2006
        • 1509

        #4
        if it doesn't...slip him a 20 and do it again ;)
        www.ryanwhopkins.com

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        • JoeMadoo
          E30 Modder
          • Aug 2006
          • 936

          #5
          slip him a 20 and do it again
          Thats whats gonna have to happen.

          Well my engine is legal now and everything but I failed the emmisions :(.

          But it only failed at 15mph for NOx and HC. So I either need to do some serious reading or pay someone alot of money to fix it.
          '86 E30
          '05 E53 X5
          '72 Firebird
          '10 Prius
          '03 Tundra

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          • george graves
            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
            • Oct 2003
            • 19986

            #6
            I'd love to hear about how you made your motor legal...Please share what you had to do.
            Originally posted by Matt-B
            hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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            • JoeMadoo
              E30 Modder
              • Aug 2006
              • 936

              #7
              You need to get it "BAR certified". Which means you need to call these people up (got the number from my local smog place) and tell them what you did.

              They look to make sure you put all the vacuum lines in the right place, make sure the o2 sensor works, ICV works, all that stuff, it's not too comprehensive though. If everything checks out, which mine did, then they do the sniffer test, which mine didnt pass. Once thats completed they give you a sticker to put somewhere on your car that says this engine now belongs in this car and no-one can give you shit for it. And it's only $38 here in CA.

              So in my case all I have to do is lower the NOx and HC emissions somehow and i'll be legal :)
              '86 E30
              '05 E53 X5
              '72 Firebird
              '10 Prius
              '03 Tundra

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              • Farbin Kaiber
                Lil' Puppet
                • Jul 2007
                • 29502

                #8
                EGR cleaning is in order.

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                • george graves
                  I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 19986

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JoeMadoo
                  You need to get it "BAR certified". Which means you need to call these people up (got the number from my local smog place) and tell them what you did.

                  They look to make sure you put all the vacuum lines in the right place, make sure the o2 sensor works, ICV works, all that stuff, it's not too comprehensive though. If everything checks out, which mine did, then they do the sniffer test, which mine didnt pass. Once thats completed they give you a sticker to put somewhere on your car that says this engine now belongs in this car and no-one can give you shit for it. And it's only $38 here in CA.

                  So in my case all I have to do is lower the NOx and HC emissions somehow and i'll be legal :)
                  Awesome - thank you. Do you need ANY paperwork showing what car the motor came from? Or do you just say, it's from a Blah blah....and it's all good?

                  BTW - I'd seafoam your motor, I passed smog with flying colors.
                  Originally posted by Matt-B
                  hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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                  • JoeMadoo
                    E30 Modder
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 936

                    #10
                    I didnt need any paperwork for the motor, just told him it was from an 88 735i. All I needed was my registration, or the smog renual form works too.
                    Last edited by JoeMadoo; 12-19-2007, 04:49 PM. Reason: spelling
                    '86 E30
                    '05 E53 X5
                    '72 Firebird
                    '10 Prius
                    '03 Tundra

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                    • george graves
                      I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 19986

                      #11
                      Awesome - you are the FIRST person I've ever met that has actually done it. Usually it's second or third person BS...
                      Originally posted by Matt-B
                      hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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                      • JoeMadoo
                        E30 Modder
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 936

                        #12
                        Haha. It was kinda nerve racking, I didnt know what to expect.
                        '86 E30
                        '05 E53 X5
                        '72 Firebird
                        '10 Prius
                        '03 Tundra

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                        • euroshark
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 3491

                          #13
                          On www.firstfives.org in the FAQ section they have a nice article on fixing various emission related issues.
                          '88 528e /// '88 M5 /// '89 951 /// '98 E430 /// '02 M5

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                          • JoeMadoo
                            E30 Modder
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 936

                            #14
                            It can be sooo many things.... I can hear a tiny/erratic vacuum leak coming from an unknown location under the FPR, it's really pissing me off because I can't find it, that could cause it definitely though. Maybe some to wires and some octane booster i dunno.

                            The thing that pisses me off is that at 25mph, everything passed. but at 15mph, NOx more than doubled to like 2100, the limit was around 900.
                            '86 E30
                            '05 E53 X5
                            '72 Firebird
                            '10 Prius
                            '03 Tundra

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                            • george graves
                              I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 19986

                              #15
                              Yea, a leak will get you. You can try the old propane/starter fluid trick. If it was me, I'd find the leak and then do the following:

                              3 cans of sea foam. Get the gas tank level down very low. And one to the tank. Start car, warm up. Suck half a can of seafoam (by a vacume line) trying to "choke" the motor with it - shut it down, wait 2 hours. Repeat 3 more time. Then go drive the living shit out of it (you be blowing enough smoke to cover a city block) - Mine took about 30-40 of hard driving till the exhaust ran clear.

                              Change the oil, and top off the tank with 91+ chevron.

                              Before smog appointment, get it nice and hot.

                              I bet you already know these tricks, but maybe someone else doesn't...
                              Last edited by george graves; 12-19-2007, 10:44 PM.
                              Originally posted by Matt-B
                              hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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