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  • vte30
    Noobie
    • Jan 2009
    • 15

    #1

    How do these look?

    M42 ninjas,

    Please help... this is the first I've cracked open my valve cover and I don't know what things are supposed to look like.

    The car has 215k miles on it. Recently, it developed the rattle at ~3k RPM common to a failing chain tensioner. I purchased and installed a new one. The sound went away... for a few thousand miles and returned. I guessed, as is discussed in this thread:



    ... that the chain/cam gears/rails were shot and the tensioner only temporarily masked the problem. This is what things looked like when I took off the valve cover:

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    From what I understand, worn cam gears are generally pointy. These certainly don't look that way to me. In addition, I was under the impression that the old style guide rails that fell apart were steel. The top guide that I can see is the newer, plastic style.

    To those with a trained eye, do these gears look worn? If my assumption about the guides is right, is it fair to assume the chain/gears/guides have been replaced at some point (I've only owned the car two years)? If so, is it possible the new tensioner has failed already? Any other advice?

    Thanks!
  • CorvallisBMW
    Long Schlong Longhammer
    • Feb 2005
    • 13039

    #2
    Those gears don't look worn. How about the lower chain guide? Any idea what shape it's in?

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    • vte30
      Noobie
      • Jan 2009
      • 15

      #3
      Haven't gotten that far yet...

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      • StereoInstaller1
        GAS
        • Jul 2004
        • 22679

        #4
        M42s come with adjustable cams?

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        • Ray Smoodiver
          Moderator
          • Jun 2004
          • 8809

          #5
          Originally posted by StereoInstaller1
          M42s come with adjustable cams?
          Sure do.

          6 degrees adv on the intake was originally the go, but I think the sweetest balance is around 4 degrees adv.

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          • xwill112x
            Θέλησα έναν τίτλο συνήθειας, απορροφώ για να είμ&#
            • Jan 2009
            • 4236

            #6
            they looks great.! looks almost brand new. your guides might not be though...
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            • Eecen
              E30 Fanatic
              • Jun 2010
              • 1235

              #7
              Those teeth look fine.

              Have you dropped your pan yet? If you didn't see any plastic/metal in there you should be good on the guides.

              I read somewhere that the water pump is a source for at least one of the many rattling noises these engine make. Haven't looked into it though.

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              • CorvallisBMW
                Long Schlong Longhammer
                • Feb 2005
                • 13039

                #8
                There is also the very slight possibility that your crank gear is worn, but if that cam gears are in that good a shape I highly doubt it.

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                • vte30
                  Noobie
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 15

                  #9
                  Thanks everyone... I suppose I'll drop the pan tonight and look for junk that doesn't belong.

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                  • vte30
                    Noobie
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 15

                    #10
                    Just FYI, lower oil pan drop results:

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                    Yeah.... guess I know where to go from here. Thanks for all your responses.

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                    • Eecen
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 1235

                      #11
                      Shitty deal right there.

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                      • tonywonder
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 1688

                        #12
                        holy shit thats bad. should be fun to take that engine apart tho. good luck. take pics!

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                        • Danny
                          Moderator
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 14216

                          #13
                          Its just from his guide rails, he should be okay.

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                          • ISB E30
                            Advanced Member
                            • Jul 2010
                            • 139

                            #14
                            OH OH OH! Mine did that:

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                            • ISB E30
                              Advanced Member
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 139

                              #15
                              OH OH OH! Mine did that:

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