Schmutz on new valve cover gasket

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  • majdomo
    E30 Addict
    • Jun 2018
    • 449

    #1

    Schmutz on new valve cover gasket

    Hey y’all - replacing the valve cover gasket in a bit, ordered one up and it came new in box with some weird white mold-like stuff on it. The spark plug bore gaskets are fine but sealed in a plastic bag. The rubber seems fine, good and flexible, and it looks like it wipes off, should I send back for a replacement or just clean it up and install?

    Tbh it looks like what messes up your Cuban cigars when your humidor is over-humidified. For the stogie fans in the room. :)

    Not at home at the moment for pix but will post some when I get a minute.


    Ezekiel 25:17
    Current flame: E30 318iS Alpinweiss II slicktop / LSD - Joanne
    The old man: 1970 2002 Polaris(ish) slicktop / rat rod - Wallace
    The ex: E92 335i 6MT M-Sport - Betty
    The heavy: 2001 4Runner SR5 Sport (3rd Gen) - Fred
  • fresh_TD
    R3VLimited
    • Aug 2013
    • 2457

    #2
    Wipe off and install.

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    '91 318i (Alpine) - daily
    '88 325ix (Zinno) - drive here and there!

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    • majdomo
      E30 Addict
      • Jun 2018
      • 449

      #3
      Originally posted by fresh_TD
      Wipe off and install.

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      Figured but also wanted to tap the wisdom of the R3v. Off to get some rtv.


      Ezekiel 25:17
      Current flame: E30 318iS Alpinweiss II slicktop / LSD - Joanne
      The old man: 1970 2002 Polaris(ish) slicktop / rat rod - Wallace
      The ex: E92 335i 6MT M-Sport - Betty
      The heavy: 2001 4Runner SR5 Sport (3rd Gen) - Fred

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      • roguetoaster
        R3V OG
        • Jan 2012
        • 7754

        #4
        It's a mold release agent, you can just leave it on there.

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        • majdomo
          E30 Addict
          • Jun 2018
          • 449

          #5
          Originally posted by roguetoaster
          It's a mold release agent, you can just leave it on there.

          Ohhhh. I guess never figured I’d get a moldy gasket.


          Ezekiel 25:17
          Current flame: E30 318iS Alpinweiss II slicktop / LSD - Joanne
          The old man: 1970 2002 Polaris(ish) slicktop / rat rod - Wallace
          The ex: E92 335i 6MT M-Sport - Betty
          The heavy: 2001 4Runner SR5 Sport (3rd Gen) - Fred

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          • majdomo
            E30 Addict
            • Jun 2018
            • 449

            #6
            Originally posted by majdomo
            Ohhhh. I guess never figured I’d get a moldy gasket.


            Ezekiel 25:17

            :)


            Ezekiel 25:17
            Current flame: E30 318iS Alpinweiss II slicktop / LSD - Joanne
            The old man: 1970 2002 Polaris(ish) slicktop / rat rod - Wallace
            The ex: E92 335i 6MT M-Sport - Betty
            The heavy: 2001 4Runner SR5 Sport (3rd Gen) - Fred

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            • roguetoaster
              R3V OG
              • Jan 2012
              • 7754

              #7
              Originally posted by majdomo
              Ohhhh. I guess never figured I’d get a moldy gasket.


              Ezekiel 25:17
              Sounds like a new one for urban dictionary.

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              • Gloff
                Advanced Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 186

                #8
                Originally posted by majdomo
                Figured but also wanted to tap the wisdom of the R3v. Off to get some rtv.


                Ezekiel 25:17
                I've never had any leaks with the VC gasket dry, the clamp force seems to be more than enough, even at the joint of the head/upper timing case. As I'm sure you know, use a torque wrench, the head strips really easy.
                1991 BMW 318i Alpinweiß II Slicktop 231,000 Miles Build date: Wednesday, 1/30/1991
                2003 BMW Z4 2.5i Sterlinggrau Metallic 112,000 Miles Build Date: Monday 12/9/2002

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                • majdomo
                  E30 Addict
                  • Jun 2018
                  • 449

                  #9
                  Schmutz on new valve cover gasket

                  Originally posted by Gloff
                  I've never had any leaks with the VC gasket dry, the clamp force seems to be more than enough, even at the joint of the head/upper timing case. As I'm sure you know, use a torque wrench, the head strips really easy.

                  Yep, torque wrench to 10nm only. There’s one in the timing case (center outer bolt) that is a little more spinny than I like but the rest are fine.


                  Ezekiel 25:17
                  Last edited by majdomo; 06-01-2019, 09:27 PM.
                  Current flame: E30 318iS Alpinweiss II slicktop / LSD - Joanne
                  The old man: 1970 2002 Polaris(ish) slicktop / rat rod - Wallace
                  The ex: E92 335i 6MT M-Sport - Betty
                  The heavy: 2001 4Runner SR5 Sport (3rd Gen) - Fred

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                  • Gloff
                    Advanced Member
                    • Oct 2011
                    • 186

                    #10
                    Originally posted by majdomo
                    Yep, torque wrench to 10nm only. There’s one in the timing case (center outer bolt) that is a little more spinny than I like but the rest are fine.


                    Ezekiel 25:17
                    If you do put an insert, I highly recommend timeserts instead of helicoils, I had to replace four in my M42, and while drilling into the head is a bit nerve racking, it's a much better solution than helicoils.
                    1991 BMW 318i Alpinweiß II Slicktop 231,000 Miles Build date: Wednesday, 1/30/1991
                    2003 BMW Z4 2.5i Sterlinggrau Metallic 112,000 Miles Build Date: Monday 12/9/2002

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                    • majdomo
                      E30 Addict
                      • Jun 2018
                      • 449

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Gloff
                      If you do put an insert, I highly recommend timeserts instead of helicoils, I had to replace four in my M42, and while drilling into the head is a bit nerve racking, it's a much better solution than helicoils.


                      Got it. Going to see how it goes next few weeks...if it leaks will get the timesert going. No idea why this stripped, had zero issues coming out and was stupid slow / careful going back in.


                      Ezekiel 25:17
                      Current flame: E30 318iS Alpinweiss II slicktop / LSD - Joanne
                      The old man: 1970 2002 Polaris(ish) slicktop / rat rod - Wallace
                      The ex: E92 335i 6MT M-Sport - Betty
                      The heavy: 2001 4Runner SR5 Sport (3rd Gen) - Fred

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                      • Gloff
                        Advanced Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 186

                        #12
                        Originally posted by majdomo
                        Got it. Going to see how it goes next few weeks...if it leaks will get the timesert going. No idea why this stripped, had zero issues coming out and was stupid slow / careful going back in.


                        Ezekiel 25:17
                        They strip if you sneeze. Soft aluminum with steel bolts.
                        1991 BMW 318i Alpinweiß II Slicktop 231,000 Miles Build date: Wednesday, 1/30/1991
                        2003 BMW Z4 2.5i Sterlinggrau Metallic 112,000 Miles Build Date: Monday 12/9/2002

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                        • fresh_TD
                          R3VLimited
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 2457

                          #13
                          I've never had issues with these bolts. I always use a short handle 1/4 in rachet for this reason. Hard to generate a lot of torque with said rachet.

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                          • roguetoaster
                            R3V OG
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 7754

                            #14
                            Originally posted by fresh_TD
                            I've never had issues with these bolts.
                            Concur, I do try to remove them only when the engine is cold just to limit the failure potential. When the spec calls for inch pounds you shouldn't even need to use the handle of the ratchet, but rather just the head, and if you feel you can't get it tight enough that way you have crud in the threads.

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                            • majdomo
                              E30 Addict
                              • Jun 2018
                              • 449

                              #15
                              Originally posted by roguetoaster
                              Concur, I do try to remove them only when the engine is cold just to limit the failure potential. When the spec calls for inch pounds you shouldn't even need to use the handle of the ratchet, but rather just the head, and if you feel you can't get it tight enough that way you have crud in the threads.

                              Agree. Did the work with the engine cold from overnight. I noticed some thread junk when the bolts came out, was hoping it wasn’t anything serious. I was able to torque the other bolts down fine, there were two which went down most of the way and then just didn’t go any further, but weren’t quite tight enough. I threaded them all by hand until I couldn’t turn with finger pressure, then very gently torqued to spec. Sort of unfortunately, it was the one in the upper right corner, near the manifold in the upper timing case, and the one in the middle of the timing case. However there’s some rtv on the corner and the middle bolt looks ok.

                              Last person on the cover was my mechanic when he replaced the head in August 2017, so....at least the head’s not fucked.

                              Anyway. Seems fine for now but just a bummer.


                              Ezekiel 25:17
                              Current flame: E30 318iS Alpinweiss II slicktop / LSD - Joanne
                              The old man: 1970 2002 Polaris(ish) slicktop / rat rod - Wallace
                              The ex: E92 335i 6MT M-Sport - Betty
                              The heavy: 2001 4Runner SR5 Sport (3rd Gen) - Fred

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