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  • Active16Bits
    Advanced Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 132

    #1

    Open to lsd swap.

    Hey yall. I currently have a 325e with an open diff. I want to swap over to a lsd. I plan on getting one at my local pickapart since they're cheaper there than online or new.

    My question is, how can you tell if the differential is an lsd without opening it up? I looked at mine and couldn't see anything stamped on it?

    Oh and I have a "medium" case by the way.
  • u3b3rg33k
    R3VLimited
    • Jan 2010
    • 2452

    #2
    I want to say search. If you know how a limited slip diff works, you won't need to ask.



    Anyways, if you turn one output shaft, the other will turn the same direction if it's an LSD, opposite direction if it's open/atb.

    That still doesn't tell you the condition of the clutch pack. You'll also want to be careful of which ratio diff you end up with. An eta with a 4.10 diff would be stupid, imho.

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    • Active16Bits
      Advanced Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 132

      #3
      That's all I needed to know. Thank you.

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      • kronus
        R3V OG
        • Apr 2008
        • 13003

        #4
        There is a tag attached to one of the rear cover bolts. It should have the diff ratio and slip-ness. A 2.93 LSD will be labeled as S2.93, a 2.93 open will be just 2.93.
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        • kronus
          R3V OG
          • Apr 2008
          • 13003

          #5
          Also, for ratios, don't go higher than 3.46ish, anything taller than that would be inconvenient on the freeway.
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          • rThor432
            No R3VLimiter
            • Feb 2007
            • 3907

            #6
            Originally posted by u3b3rg33k
            That still doesn't tell you the condition of the clutch pack.
            This is a good point regarding used/junkyard diffs. It sucks to go through the effort to install one and then still only peel one wheel.

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            • Active16Bits
              Advanced Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 132

              #7
              Thanks for the useful info guys!

              The yard has a week long warrenty so I'm going to pick one up while it's already under the knife.

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              • MR 325
                Moderator
                • Oct 2003
                • 37825

                #8
                Also check E24 and E28 cars, not sure if you knew that...
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                • Active16Bits
                  Advanced Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 132

                  #9
                  Didn't even think of that. I do remember seeing more e28's last time I went there. I couldn't find any information on the sizing of differentials in e28's though. I know theres "small" and "medium" ones in e30's.

                  Does this really make a difference? or is it the just the case size in relation to the ratio? Would I have to use different half shafts if I used another size differential? Excuse my ignorance, I've grown up on mostly fwd and solid axle rwd's.

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                  • Active16Bits
                    Advanced Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 132

                    #10
                    Originally posted by kronus
                    Also, for ratios, don't go higher than 3.46ish, anything taller than that would be inconvenient on the freeway.
                    How inconvenient? I know the eta has a tall 5th but my GTI is at 4,000rpm going 75mpg and that doesn't bother me.

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                    • u3b3rg33k
                      R3VLimited
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 2452

                      #11
                      Well, the eta runs out of revs at 4800rpm, whereas your gti goes to at least 6000rpm.

                      The eta has the same .8 OD that all the G260s have.

                      Ich gehöre nicht zur Baader-Meinhof Gruppe

                      Originally posted by Top Gear
                      Just imagine waking up and remembering you're Mexican.

                      Every time you buy a car with DSC/ESC, Jesus kills a baby seal. With a kitten.


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                      • kronus
                        R3V OG
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 13003

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Active16Bits
                        How inconvenient? I know the eta has a tall 5th but my GTI is at 4,000rpm going 75mpg and that doesn't bother me.
                        Going to assume you meant mph. The problem is more of a mismatched torque curve - the eta's usable rpm range is like 2k - 4k, and a taller diff will have you running through that very quickly. A 3.73 puts you at around 4k at 80, which doesn't seem problematic until you realize that the eta's peak RPM is 5k.
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                        • Wh33lhop
                          R3V OG
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 11705

                          #13
                          Originally posted by kronus
                          Going to assume you meant mph. The problem is more of a mismatched torque curve - the eta's usable rpm range is like 2k - 4k, and a taller diff will have you running through that very quickly. A 3.73 puts you at around 4k at 80, which doesn't seem problematic until you realize that the eta's peak RPM is 5k.
                          With a G260, a 3.73 puts you at 3350 at 80. Even a 4.10 would put you at about 3700rpm at 80.

                          Personally although I'd prefer a taller top gear, I haven't found a problem with turning over 3200 or so on the highway with an M50, the lower gearing is too fun. Just sucks for your gas mileage in an eta, but a 3.73 would still get you some decent passing power until 90 or so.
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                          • kronus
                            R3V OG
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 13003

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Wh33lhop
                            With a G260, a 3.73 puts you at 3350 at 80. Even a 4.10 would put you at about 3700rpm at 80.
                            I was estimating up from a 2.93. Not good at math :|
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                            • Active16Bits
                              Advanced Member
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 132

                              #15
                              Thank you so much guys. I guess I'm going to hope I find a s3.73!

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