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  • jw 325ic
    E30 Fanatic
    • Sep 2006
    • 1360

    #1

    rear u joint keeps going out

    What would cause the rear u joint on the driveshaft to keep going out? I've replaced it like 4 times...I would get one rebuilt but I'm afraid to waste my money if it's something like the diff mount bushing.

    So far I have new motor mounts, trans mounts, flex disc, and CSB. They all look fine. Could it be the diff mount? Maybe (hopefully not) rear subframe mounts?

    Thanks.
  • bloodshot-e30
    E30 Fanatic
    • Mar 2010
    • 1494

    #2
    do u have the CSB in the right way?
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    • shiboujin
      R3VLimited
      • Feb 2006
      • 2791

      #3
      How did you replace it 4 times? You replaced the Ujoint or the drive shaft?

      Define "Went out"

      Status: HG repair. 488wtq though!

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      • jw 325ic
        E30 Fanatic
        • Sep 2006
        • 1360

        #4
        the csb is on correctly, trust me, i've done this a few times now. i always pre-load it but have tried it without doing so (last year), and same thing happens.

        by went out, i mean it starts to shake at 40mph+ and when removing the driveshaft, inspecting the joint. It moves freely...

        on one of my other driveshafts, the rear ujoint is starting to tear apart. on my original shaft, it snapped the rear joint.

        by replace, i mean i went the junkyard and replaced the whole rear driveshaft with a known good one and on occasion the whole driveshaft.

        hope this helps.

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        • shiboujin
          R3VLimited
          • Feb 2006
          • 2791

          #5
          Never replace just part of a drive shaft. they are balanced as a whole. Did you make sure to align them correctly when you reconnected the whole drive shafts?

          IMO you just unbalanced all your drive shaft. Get one, have it balanced, replace the U joint, never worry about it again.

          Status: HG repair. 488wtq though!

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          • jw 325ic
            E30 Fanatic
            • Sep 2006
            • 1360

            #6
            i figured that was probably the case, but wanted to see if a diff bushing or rear subframe mount bush would cause this. If i mix and match the shafts I line up the u joints as a ghetto balance method. But even with complete shafts the rear will go out and the shaft will be lined up with the white dots.

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            • shiboujin
              R3VLimited
              • Feb 2006
              • 2791

              #7
              you can try your subframe/diff bushings but I doubt it. usually the subframe bushings will manifest as a "clunking" sound on hard accel or burnouts. You can easily inspect the diff bushing.

              Status: HG repair. 488wtq though!

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              • scottinAZ
                E30 Fanatic
                • Dec 2009
                • 1312

                #8
                remember you are still replacing your driveshaft with a used unit. Luck of the draw in getting a good one that will go the distance. Chances are it is just their time to go, and you are teh unlucky SOB who gets to change them out
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                • jw 325ic
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 1360

                  #9
                  Yea youre probly right. Guess ill suck it up and pay the $400 and hopefully just have it done for good. Thanks guys.

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                  • 'e30love'
                    E30 Modder
                    • May 2010
                    • 893

                    #10
                    i agree with what everyone is saying,
                    they are balanced, thats probably why yours is going out.

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                    • jlevie
                      R3V OG
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 13530

                      #11
                      You absolutely cannot mix-n-match driveshaft halves. They must be balanced as a unit. Furthermore, the odds of finding a good drive shaft at a salvage yard are pretty slim. Get a reman from DriveLine Services.
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                      • Wanganstyle
                        R3VLimited
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 2828

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jlevie
                        You absolutely cannot mix-n-match driveshaft halves. They must be balanced as a unit. Furthermore, the odds of finding a good drive shaft at a salvage yard are pretty slim. Get a reman from DriveLine Services.
                        100%. this is the truth.



                        drop off one of your bad units for rebuilding? get a local driveline shop to warranty the work?

                        OR buy a quality reman unit or a NEWER e36M unit? they are a decade newer..... I have not had problems with any E36M driveshaft U joints yet, even when destroying the center bearing via right foot fun.

                        if you have a ETA G260 with big size guibo the e36m guibo is pnp size, shaft is also pretty much the same length. That is what I will be doing when the e30 longshaft takes a poop, mine seems pretty decent shape though.
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                        • bloodshot-e30
                          E30 Fanatic
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 1494

                          #13
                          Originally posted by shiboujin
                          Never replace just part of a drive shaft. they are balanced as a whole. Did you make sure to align them correctly when you reconnected the whole drive shafts?

                          IMO you just unbalanced all your drive shaft. Get one, have it balanced, replace the U joint, never worry about it again.

                          i do it all the time doesnt hurt a thing as long as u put it back the right way. both front and rear have weights and if you line the u joints up there are no vibrations



                          if the joints KEEP going out theres something else wrong IE not lined up rear diff could be lose subframe bushings could be worn out diff bushing it could be a lot of things. or u just have bad luck with driveshafts lol
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                          • Wanganstyle
                            R3VLimited
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 2828

                            #14
                            Originally posted by bloodshot-e30
                            i do it all the time doesnt hurt a thing as long as u put it back the right way. both front and rear have weights and if you line the u joints up there are no vibrations



                            if the joints KEEP going out theres something else wrong IE not lined up rear diff could be lose subframe bushings could be worn out diff bushing it could be a lot of things. or u just have bad luck with driveshafts lol
                            Diff will break it's cover if bushing is worn, or fall out of car bc the mounting bolts loose.

                            If diff k member support bushes dead the pitch may increase to unacceptable angle for driveshaft durability but that would be extreme and probably kill the diff pinion bearing first.

                            Does your diff have good front bearings?
                            OBD1 M54/M52TU swap as a M50b25

                            Z4 non powered steering rack fits e30



                            Euro e46 2005/6 320d 6mt gearbox into E30 with M20 hardy and beck 1985 327s engine

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                            • Brandon12V
                              E30 Fanatic
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 1318

                              #15
                              if you've gone through 4 u-joints, you better check the pinion shaft on your diff.

                              Originally posted by Ryan...
                              It now emits a beautiful blue-ish yellow/green smoke from the exhaust?? No idea what would cause that color, but I assume its good.

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