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  • bastianshaw
    R3VLimited
    • Jan 2007
    • 2210

    #1

    tall shifter?

    What kind of shifter are those really high ones? I like the idea of only moving my hand a few inches from the wheel, with a short throw Im thinking this is the way to go. Anyone running one of these? pics?
  • Ayman
    R3V Elite
    • Apr 2011
    • 4190

    #2
    paging ocrgrinder.


    Originally posted by yert315
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    • MR 325
      Moderator
      • Oct 2003
      • 37825

      #3
      I have an X5 shifter in my S50 car. Love it. :)
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      • Wh33lhop
        R3V OG
        • Feb 2009
        • 11705

        #4
        If you've got money coming out of your ears, check out the AKG DTM shifter. Get a metal ball style shift knob for it for extra sweetness.
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        • bastianshaw
          R3VLimited
          • Jan 2007
          • 2210

          #5
          Originally posted by MR 325
          I have an X5 shifter in my S50 car. Love it. :)
          pics...do it

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          • White87E30
            Noobie
            • Apr 2008
            • 8

            #6
            Try a E60 545/550 shifter, its short from the factory and tall for the 5 series.

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            • LuckyHenriksen
              R3V Elite
              • Jun 2010
              • 4244

              #7
              Also interested. Could you just weld/attach a longer stick to the standard short throw setup?


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              • mdlimy
                Wrencher
                • Aug 2011
                • 289

                #8
                There's no way to keep the throw short with a long shifter without extensive modification to the shifter assembly, the race cars you see with them have dogbox/sequential gearboxs that normally have hydrolic shifters or just a really short gear throw.

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                • Jaxx_
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 1880

                  #9
                  Originally posted by LuckyHenriksen
                  Also interested. Could you just weld/attach a longer stick to the standard short throw setup?
                  yes, you can. and depending on the ratios, keeping the standard throw and effort however elevating the shifter so it's closer to the wheel.
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                  • _r2h
                    Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 41

                    #10
                    Throws on my AKG shifter are short, and it's very tall.
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                    • Manimal
                      Noobie
                      • May 2009
                      • 30

                      #11
                      It's really easy if you can weld. You shorten the throw by adding below the metal ball, stock is ~1.5-1.75" from the center of the 30mm metal ball to the center of the shift linkage. I can't remember what the top is. It's just a ratio, the only problem you'll run into is shifting from 2-3 and 4-5 because it slides into gear by rotating the transmission selector rod a certain number of degrees. So, when you shorten the throw by adding length to the bottom you'll increase the side to side throw and there's nothing you can do about that short of designing a super trick shifter.

                      If you do decide to do it make sure to cut the shift rod as close to the ball as possible and do a bunch of "spot" welds. Otherwise you'll over heat the lower bushing where the shift linkage sits, it will bubble up and turn soft. Then you'll need to find a tube to weld in or weld in a rod and drill it out to 10mm. I fucked it up the first time and had to do that, it's for a lemons car so meh. I did it again for my "DD" and it turned out fine, just shortened the throw, no height increase.

                      I raised mine so the shift ball will now be about 2" below the steering wheel hub center. You'll also need(or it's a good idea with every short throw lever) to raise the shift ball cup height the same amount you added below the shift ball, that will keep the vertical stress on the selector lever rod to a minimum so you don't wear out the seal.
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                      • jlevie
                        R3V OG
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 13530

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mdlimy
                        There's no way to keep the throw short with a long shifter without extensive modification to the shifter assembly, the race cars you see with them have dogbox/sequential gearboxs that normally have hydrolic shifters or just a really short gear throw.
                        That is not really true. It is common on a race car to use a short shift lever and then stick a Jaffster knob or similar on it to raise the end of the shifter. The throw gets longer, but that is good as it makes it easier to tell what gear the car in in by touch.
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                        • JdmEuroNorth
                          Wrencher
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 222

                          #13
                          Be careful of the weight of your shifter because you can prematurely wear out shift forks and synchro sleeve bushings by always having force pushing or pulling on those components.

                          Same deal with people who drive with their hand always on the shifter, you're going to wear shit out!
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