3.25 lsd shredded hex bolt found inside

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  • The Bimm
    Advanced Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 135

    #1

    3.25 lsd shredded hex bolt found inside

    Can any one explain to me why I found a little hex bolt inside my diff while changing my fluid last night? Should I be worried? . I'm opening it up anyways, but would like to know if it's happend to anyone else.
  • jlevie
    R3V OG
    • Nov 2006
    • 13530

    #2
    Yes you should be worried. Get the cover off and look for where the bolt came from.
    The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
    Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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    • The Bimm
      Advanced Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 135

      #3
      Haha daymmmmmm that sucks. Who knows how long I've been driving without it well looks like a project for the weekend. Thanks man

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      • FredK
        R3V OG
        • Oct 2003
        • 14742

        #4
        Yes. It is a lot more common on E36 limited slip diffs, where the socket head cap screws that hold the LSD capsule together back out. There are 8 socket head cap screws that hold it down. They are M8x1.0x16 screws. They are available through MSC, Fastenal, and also the dealer (PN 33147740005). They are finer pitch thread than the normal M8 screws you find on BMWs.

        The solution is to use locking compound on the screws upon reinstallation.

        It's possible to remove the LS unit without dropping the whole diff. You need to disconnect the halfshafts, remove the rear cover, remove the axle stubs, remove the side plates (being sure to keep the plates and shims on each side of the diff in order, right side and right shim need to be reinstalled on the right side).

        Hopefully the threads in the diff weren't damaged by the bolt loosening. If they weren't the best thing to do is to remove one bolt at a time, put some solvent into the hole, and blow it out with compressed air, being careful not to blow it back into your eyes, and reinstall the bolt with Loctite on it to a torque appropriate for the grade of fastener you're using.

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        • The Bimm
          Advanced Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 135

          #5
          Thanks for the help man I'll be doing this Sunday. I might just take the whole diff out to inspect everything else on it.

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          • jlevie
            R3V OG
            • Nov 2006
            • 13530

            #6
            No need to pull the differential. Short of gear mesh and end play checks, which require the differential on the bench and special equipment, you can fully inspect the differential by removing the cover.
            The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
            Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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            • The Bimm
              Advanced Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 135

              #7
              So I can just pull the cover off the diff, and will be able to see the lsd capsule where the bolt came out from?

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              • FredK
                R3V OG
                • Oct 2003
                • 14742

                #8
                Yes.



                On the left side of the ring gear you'll see that it's bolted to the LS carrier with a bunch of really large M14 bolts. Inboard of those bolts are the smaller M8 capsule socket head cap screws. You'll obviously need to rotate the diff to see all of the fasteners.

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                • The Bimm
                  Advanced Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 135

                  #9
                  Alright cool man thanks for the pic, and the advice.

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                  • Wanganstyle
                    R3VLimited
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 2828

                    #10
                    Honestly if you have a bolt head hanging out in the oil the clutch discs and steels will show some nasty wear.

                    the 1995 e36m was notorious for this; it often leads to broken top caps and melted internals: many photos of this on BFC and the like.

                    The little bolt heads also enjoy destroying the ring and pinion set.

                    I guess bmw decided in 1994/5 that loctite was too expensive to use on m3's

                    If it's been ran prolonged and too many bolts are loose strange damage can happen to internal parts. This unit internal set also had contact hit while wheel to wheel racing and further complicated the damage.



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                    Last edited by Wanganstyle; 12-18-2013, 08:22 AM.
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