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  • llll1l1ll
    Mod Crazy
    • Dec 2003
    • 782

    #1

    Chackita-chackita-chackita-chackita

    That's the sound my E30 has always made when the clutch is out in neutral. Never caused any problems. Been like that ever since I've owned it, as well as the previous owner. In fact, my old red E30 would make it just a little bit when I turned off the car. Whenever I rev up the car (past 1k) the sound goes away.

    However, today it made a new noise. Aside from the chackita-chackita-chackita-chackita when the clutch is out, when I push the clutch in, about a second later an almost grinding noise happens. Like almost a zzzzzzzzzssszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz like something is rubbing/grinding. It's not a whine, it still sounds like the chackita-chackita-chackita-chackita, just not so "choppy," per se, but a little more steady. Almost like a big rig grinding gears, but not so grind-y. It'll speed up with engine speed until the clutch mates with the flywheel, and it will totally disappear until I hit the clutch again.

    Aside from that, the car drives just like it should. No problems shifting, engaging/disengaging, driving, unsw. No slippage, chattering.

    I live in Greenville, NC. The weather has been fluctuating between hot and cold rather frequently.

    I think it's the synchros getting old. I read somewhere on here that the chackita-chackita-chackita-chackita are my synchros clackin' away, waiting to be used. I just hope it isn't what I think it is...

    Edit: The chackita-chackita-chackita-chackita can also be compared with marbles rolling around. I honestly still think it might be a worn input shaft?

    Ninja Edit: Should I change the gear oil? I don't know if its been changed, and the ODO has 232,802 on it. Would changing it fuck it up? Should I use redline?
    Last edited by llll1l1ll; 01-23-2007, 07:31 PM.
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  • NC325iC
    R3V OG
    • Mar 2004
    • 6565

    #2
    how olds your clutch?
    could be the clutch isnt disengaging correctly and your grinding gears when shifting
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    Originally posted by TimKninja
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    • turbo_negro69
      E30 Addict
      • Dec 2006
      • 468

      #3
      it's broken!











      seriously though NOTHING should sound like "chakita-chakiblah blah blah"
      or "zzzzsszzz" sounds like its time to drain the oil into a CLEAN pan and look for metal/debris. cuz somethings on its way out

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      • Jesse30
        No R3VLimiter
        • Jan 2007
        • 3936

        #4
        my car makes the same noise when the clutch is disengaged lol.

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        • NC325iC
          R3V OG
          • Mar 2004
          • 6565

          #5
          Originally posted by turbo_negro69
          it's broken!











          seriously though NOTHING should sound like "chakita-chakiblah blah blah"
          or "zzzzsszzz" sounds like its time to drain the oil into a CLEAN pan and look for metal/debris. cuz somethings on its way out
          the chakita sound is just his input shaft bearing making noise its not a serious problem its just annoying, its a very common problem
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          Originally posted by TimKninja
          Im more afraid of this thread turning into one of those classic R3v moments, where Pizza gets delivered.

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          • BigD
            E30 Enthusiast
            • Jul 2006
            • 1085

            #6
            The rattling is just gearbox rattle from a lighweight flywheel which you probably have, or maybe the i has a light enough flywheel to cause gearbox rattle, can't say for sure there, never been in an i for long enough to notice.

            The screeching noise is another matter though, probably the TO bearing.

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            • NC325iC
              R3V OG
              • Mar 2004
              • 6565

              #7
              it is true that lightweight flys make a similar noise but its more likely that its just the input shaft bearing/gear noise
              either way its nothing to worry about theres really nothing to do about short of rebuilding the tranny
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              Originally posted by TimKninja
              Im more afraid of this thread turning into one of those classic R3v moments, where Pizza gets delivered.

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              • turbo_negro69
                E30 Addict
                • Dec 2006
                • 468

                #8
                Originally posted by NC325iC
                the chakita sound is just his input shaft bearing making noise its not a serious problem its just annoying, its a very common problem
                a common problem that needs to be repaired. keep driving with a bad input shaft bearing and let me know how that goes:?

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                • llll1l1ll
                  Mod Crazy
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 782

                  #9
                  Originally posted by NC325iC
                  how olds your clutch?
                  could be the clutch isnt disengaging correctly and your grinding gears when shifting
                  I'm definitely not grinding gears, thanks. I have ears, haha. I suppose its just input shaft issues. The car is old...

                  I honestly think its the throwout bearing. Bummer--Ich bin total pleite! This means I gotta drive up to Raleigh to go to Janko Import Rip You Off Shop to get it fixed. Shit. The only way I think it isn't the TOB is that my car has no problems shifting.

                  I guess I'll just check the oil tomorrow... That means I gotta buy those huge fucking allen wrenches, lest the Getrag takes like a 1/4in square? Anybody know which size socket/wrench to get?
                  Me: "I can't wait to redline my car!"
                  Mark: "Didn't you just break a rocker arm?"
                  Me: "Yeah, I don't think I've learned my lesson."
                  Mark: "You never will."

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                  • llll1l1ll
                    Mod Crazy
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 782

                    #10
                    On a side note:

                    Could it possibly damage the transmission if I change the oil in it? I've heard rumors that sometimes when autos are old, they tend to be "held together" by the oil. For instance, a friend of mine had a mechanic tell him that if he had his tranny flushed in his 525i it would fuck it up since the metal has "become used to the ATF."
                    Me: "I can't wait to redline my car!"
                    Mark: "Didn't you just break a rocker arm?"
                    Me: "Yeah, I don't think I've learned my lesson."
                    Mark: "You never will."

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                    • turbo_negro69
                      E30 Addict
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 468

                      #11
                      Originally posted by llll1l1ll
                      On a side note:

                      Could it possibly damage the transmission if I change the oil in it? I've heard rumors that sometimes when autos are old, they tend to be "held together" by the oil. For instance, a friend of mine had a mechanic tell him that if he had his tranny flushed in his 525i it would fuck it up since the metal has "become used to the ATF."
                      not in a manual tranny! it'll only do it good

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                      • AndrewBird
                        The Mad Scientist
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 11892

                        #12
                        Can you feel anything in the clutch pedal? I.E. - Vibration/pulsation Could be your throw out bearings is bad/worn.

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                        • llll1l1ll
                          Mod Crazy
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 782

                          #13
                          Well, it really only vibrates with engine speed. I'll check it out on my drive today to get my phone fixed.
                          Me: "I can't wait to redline my car!"
                          Mark: "Didn't you just break a rocker arm?"
                          Me: "Yeah, I don't think I've learned my lesson."
                          Mark: "You never will."

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                          • NC325iC
                            R3V OG
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 6565

                            #14
                            ok heres how to test the tob
                            in neurtral let the clutch out hear the noise
                            now if the noise goes away from just lightly pressing the pedal ie not going past the engagement point, its your TOB

                            if the noise goes away only after you pass the engagement point then its the input shaft bearing/normal gear noise

                            and im gonna say this again, the noise from the input shaft bearing is normal in transmissions this old and you shouldnt worry about it.
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                            Originally posted by TimKninja
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                            • mrsleeve
                              I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                              • Mar 2005
                              • 16385

                              #15
                              input shaft bearing just drive it till you change out the clutch, you have to puyll the tranny apart to fix it.
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