Tracking mystery driveline vibration

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  • E30godz
    E30 Mastermind
    • Oct 2003
    • 1524

    #1

    Tracking mystery driveline vibration

    Update:

    So i've been trying to find the cause of the driveline vibration that occurs at 50+ MPH.

    Replaced CSB, Guibo is fine. I also disconnected the rear half shafts, jacked up the rear of the car and 'drove' it up to the speeds I feel the vibration at....Still there.

    So it's not anything wheel/halfshaft related. Is there anything OTHER than the driveshaft that could be causing this? Do the output shaft bearings in the transmissions go bad and cause shit like this?

    Interestingly enough, the vibration seems worse at some times than at others.
  • Teaguer
    R3V OG
    • Sep 2004
    • 6167

    #2
    Unlikely that its the trans output bearings .

    Was the CSB preloaded correctly ?
    yOu can also run it up to speed and look at the CSB or u-jounts on the end and see if you see any unwanted movements .

    E30 M3 / E30 325is / E34 525iT / E34 535i

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    • DCColegrove
      Banned
      • Dec 2007
      • 2748

      #3
      PreLoad:
      Install the Center support bolts just snug then knock it forward (evenly) about 5mm - 8mm then tighten.

      And are the U-joints binding at all? Or even just a bump as you "work" them?

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      • E30godz
        E30 Mastermind
        • Oct 2003
        • 1524

        #4
        I did preload the CSB....I didnt notice any binding in the u joints but it is possible that i just didnt check.

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        • Teaguer
          R3V OG
          • Sep 2004
          • 6167

          #5
          Recently i checked a members car for a similar problem .

          Got it up on the rack and had him put it in gear and take it up to speed while I stood underneath and checked the CSB , front and rear u-joints for movement .
          Turned out his d-shaft was shit as it had a nice hop in front part of the rear section and had a nice hop in the CSB because of this .

          E30 M3 / E30 325is / E34 525iT / E34 535i

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          • jlevie
            R3V OG
            • Nov 2006
            • 13530

            #6
            If the CSB required replacement because of a failure of the rubber mount, it is almost certain that the cause was binding u-joints in the drive shaft. That being the case, the new CSB will have a short life and the binding can cause vibration from the drive train.
            The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
            Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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            • frantic
              Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 62

              #7
              How would you fix a binding driveshaft?

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              • jlevie
                R3V OG
                • Nov 2006
                • 13530

                #8
                How would you fix a binding driveshaft?
                Replace it with a new or reman unit.
                The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                • T.Dot_E30
                  Wrencher
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 286

                  #9
                  un-balanced flywheel is a possible but unlikely cause.

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                  • E30godz
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Oct 2003
                    • 1524

                    #10
                    that would tell me its engine speed dependent, which it is not.

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                    • Stevie30
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 1534

                      #11
                      Originally posted by E30godz
                      that would tell me its engine speed dependent, which it is not.
                      Try getting to vibration speed and disengage the clutch, allowing the car to coast. I did this and my vibration stopped, even with the engine running at speed. I have narrowed mine down to the transmission; most likely the input shaft, clutch disc or pilot bearing. Good luck!

                      1991 325ic and 1991 318is

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                      • jlevie
                        R3V OG
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 13530

                        #12
                        Try getting to vibration speed and disengage the clutch, allowing the car to coast. I did this and my vibration stopped, even with the engine running at speed.
                        While that might implicate the transmission, in my experience it points to binding u-joints in the drive shaft. When binding u-joints are present they cause axial mis-alignment when the drive shaft is subjected to torque loads and the more load the greater the affect. When you de-clutch at speed you unload the drive shaft and that can lessen the mis-alignment and thus the vibration.
                        The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                        Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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