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  • FreedS4
    Mod Crazy
    • Aug 2008
    • 752

    #1

    Rubbing/grinding noise...

    I've done some researching and can't find anything that seems to help with the issue I'm having. When I'm turning at relatively low speeds (when in reverse, first, second, and sometimes third) and when the transmission is engaged, I hear what appears to be a grinding noise coming from the rear of the car. It almost sounds like tires rubbing, but I've already checked that. It doesn't sound like pure metal-on-metal grinding/rubbing, but I can't for the life of me figure out where it's coming from. Any ideas or similar situations? Danke schoen in advance...
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  • xLibelle
    R3VLimited
    • Aug 2004
    • 2673

    #2
    a limited slip diff will make funny noises at low speed turns.
    Is the vehicle new to you? The PO could have installed one. You can tell by checking the metal tag on one of the diff cover bolts.
    On the other hand, it could be dead output bearings in the differential.

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    • dark89e30
      Wrencher
      • Jul 2007
      • 263

      #3
      CVs?

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      • wagonizzle
        E30 Addict
        • Sep 2006
        • 443

        #4
        My LSD was a bit noisy until I put Redline into it; haven't heard a peep since...
        Originally posted by chileelky
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        • FreedS4
          Mod Crazy
          • Aug 2008
          • 752

          #5
          Originally posted by xLibelle
          a limited slip diff will make funny noises at low speed turns.
          Is the vehicle new to you? The PO could have installed one. You can tell by checking the metal tag on one of the diff cover bolts.
          On the other hand, it could be dead output bearings in the differential.
          The car is new to me. Would the metal tag say LSD on it?


          Originally posted by wagonizzle
          My LSD was a bit noisy until I put Redline into it; haven't heard a peep since...
          Was it noisy whether or not the clutch was engaged? The noise for me for goes away if I've got the clutch pedal pressed.
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          • xLibelle
            R3VLimited
            • Aug 2004
            • 2673

            #6
            when you depress the clutch, the lock in the diff opens up and thus no more differential clutch scrub noises. I've not heard of a LSD make a dramatic grinding noise, though mine was pretty bad at one point and has since gone away... maybe mine is toast.... hmm.

            But the tag will have an S after the number. The gear ratio will be printed on it as well. It should be like 4.10 or 3.73, to name a couple possibilities.
            If the diff were removed from the car, it could have an S painted on the top of the casing.

            do some searching about the topic. there are ways to quiet the noise but otherwise, dont worry about it.

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            • FreedS4
              Mod Crazy
              • Aug 2008
              • 752

              #7
              Originally posted by xLibelle
              when you depress the clutch, the lock in the diff opens up and thus no more differential clutch scrub noises. I've not heard of a LSD make a dramatic grinding noise, though mine was pretty bad at one point and has since gone away... maybe mine is toast.... hmm.

              But the tag will have an S after the number. The gear ratio will be printed on it as well. It should be like 4.10 or 3.73, to name a couple possibilities.
              If the diff were removed from the car, it could have an S painted on the top of the casing.

              do some searching about the topic. there are ways to quiet the noise but otherwise, dont worry about it.
              Thanks, I appreciate the help! That makes me fell a little better about the "problem".
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              • wagonizzle
                E30 Addict
                • Sep 2006
                • 443

                #8
                Originally posted by FreedS4
                Was it noisy whether or not the clutch was engaged? The noise for me for goes away if I've got the clutch pedal pressed.
                Do Redline in the trans too. The getrag trannies used in these cars are notorious for input shaft bearing noise, which is present in neutral but goes away when you depress the clutch pedal. I am not even sure if this is what you mean, but it's a good idea nonetheless. Redline is good stuff and made both ends of my car nice and quiet.
                Originally posted by chileelky
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                • FreedS4
                  Mod Crazy
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 752

                  #9
                  Originally posted by wagonizzle
                  Do Redline in the trans too. The getrag trannies used in these cars are notorious for input shaft bearing noise, which is present in neutral but goes away when you depress the clutch pedal. I am not even sure if this is what you mean, but it's a good idea nonetheless. Redline is good stuff and made both ends of my car nice and quiet.
                  I'm going to try putting Redline in it to see if that helps. Also, I looked at the diff and the number on the metal tag said S3,73 3942. What's that mean?
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                  • wagonizzle
                    E30 Addict
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 443

                    #10
                    Limited slip 3.73 ratio. Best all around diff for an m20b25 IMO
                    Originally posted by chileelky
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                    • xLibelle
                      R3VLimited
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 2673

                      #11
                      red line isnt likely the fix for the noise. like i said, do a search and you'll find the magic potion.

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                      • FreedS4
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 752

                        #12
                        Originally posted by xLibelle
                        red line isnt likely the fix for the noise. like i said, do a search and you'll find the magic potion.
                        Are you talking about the friction modifier sold at Ford dealerships? I learned a lot about our diffs whilst looking for that magic potion!
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                        • PiercedE30
                          R3V Elite
                          • Apr 2005
                          • 4220

                          #13
                          I LOVE the Redline fluids. I have MT90 in the trans and my 4.10. Surprisingly, I don't have the Getrag rattle. I'm not sure if it is was just a well kept tranny, or if the Redline actually had something to do with it. I never got to hear if the tranny did rattle before I put the fluid in due to a blown motor that came with the car.
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                          • FreedS4
                            Mod Crazy
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 752

                            #14
                            Originally posted by PiercedE30
                            I LOVE the Redline fluids. I have MT90 in the trans and my 4.10. Surprisingly, I don't have the Getrag rattle. I'm not sure if it is was just a well kept tranny, or if the Redline actually had something to do with it. I never got to hear if the tranny did rattle before I put the fluid in due to a blown motor that came with the car.
                            So I've got more than one vote for Redline fluids...
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                            • FreedS4
                              Mod Crazy
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 752

                              #15
                              FYI...that friction modifer worked. All noise is gone!
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