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  • Goya20
    Grease Monkey
    • Feb 2009
    • 325

    #1

    car doesnt start

    i have to push start the vechile there is a spinning sound coming from the engine but no start. theres power. it could be the starter? i just bought one 8months ago
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  • Lurker27
    E30 Modder
    • Jul 2007
    • 821

    #2
    Could be starter solenoid? Or battery. Or some other flywheel engagement problem. Try to start normally with the hood open to know if the car is turning over when the starter cranks.

    Try jumping the car to rule out low battery power.
    '89 335is +turbo

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    • Goya20
      Grease Monkey
      • Feb 2009
      • 325

      #3
      theres just a spinning sound i think its the starter solenoid not engaging
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      • xwill112x
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        • Jan 2009
        • 4236

        #4
        flywheel engagment problem.
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        • whiltebeitel
          R3VLimited
          • Apr 2007
          • 2098

          #5
          Originally posted by Goya20
          theres just a spinning sound i think its the starter solenoid not engaging
          Now, I know this is a bit ghetto, but hit that bitch with a hammer, it should start enough to get you to a place with a replacement starter.
          '89 325i track sloot
          '01 530i daily

          -Enginerd

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          • E30_fiend
            R3V OG
            • Apr 2006
            • 7348

            #6
            I second the hammer idea. Give it a good whack and see if it wants to start then. If i does then you have a solenoid problem. If nothing happens still then it may be a powering issue at the key switch or starter relay.

            Have a look and check back so we know everything is ok
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            • mike10562004
              Member
              • Aug 2008
              • 74

              #7
              tap gently on the starter dont beat the mf'er up tho just gently while turning the motor over. if it starts then your starter is f'ed
              either way its not too hard to replace

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              • Vince30
                R3VLimited
                • May 2009
                • 2318

                #8
                If it was a re-manufactured starter, there is a chance that it went bad again, take it off and spin the motor by hand looking at the flywheel to make sure all your teeth are there. If its spinning the celenoid is doing its job.

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                • whiltebeitel
                  R3VLimited
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 2098

                  #9
                  If it is spinning freely, the strater motor is working. The solenoid pushes the starter gear to the flywheel, where it rotates the crank, starting the car. If the solenoid is good, there would be teeth missing on the flywheel.
                  '89 325i track sloot
                  '01 530i daily

                  -Enginerd

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                  • Vince30
                    R3VLimited
                    • May 2009
                    • 2318

                    #10
                    Originally posted by whiltebeitel
                    If it is spinning freely, the strater motor is working. The solenoid pushes the starter gear to the flywheel, where it rotates the crank, starting the car. If the solenoid is good, there would be teeth missing on the flywheel.
                    I dont think the starter would spin at all if the solenoid was bad would it?

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                    • whiltebeitel
                      R3VLimited
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 2098

                      #11
                      *No, it wouldn't*. That's why the hammer trick works, it's supposed to tap the shaft out, so it engages the flywheel. If the *bendix drive* doesn't work, the starter just free-wheels when the key is turned.
                      Last edited by whiltebeitel; 11-13-2009, 09:53 AM. Reason: I was wrong.
                      '89 325i track sloot
                      '01 530i daily

                      -Enginerd

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                      • transatlantic0207
                        E30 Mastermind
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 1624

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Goya20
                        i have to push start the vechile there is a spinning sound coming from the engine but no start. theres power. it could be the starter? i just bought one 8months ago
                        looks like you know what to replace now


                        Originally posted by Vince30
                        If it was a re-manufactured starter, there is a chance that it went bad again, take it off and spin the motor by hand looking at the flywheel to make sure all your teeth are there. If its spinning the celenoid is doing its job.
                        +1
                        and take it back to where you got it get a new one(throwing through store window is optional):hitler:

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                        • Vince30
                          R3VLimited
                          • May 2009
                          • 2318

                          #13
                          Originally posted by whiltebeitel
                          Yes, it would. That's why the hammer trick works, it's supposed to tap the shaft out, so it engages the flywheel. If the solenoid doesn't work, the starter just free-wheels when the key is turned.
                          The starter would be stuck, The main purpose of the solenoid is a switch to turn the key power into the batter power.

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                          • whiltebeitel
                            R3VLimited
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 2098

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Vince30
                            The starter would be stuck, The main purpose of the solenoid is a switch to turn the key power into the batter power.
                            Actually, you are right. The bendix drive would extend when the starter spins. The solenoid does exactly what you said. A broken bendix drive, could cause similar symtoms as missing teeth on the drive gear or flywheel.
                            '89 325i track sloot
                            '01 530i daily

                            -Enginerd

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                            • Vince30
                              R3VLimited
                              • May 2009
                              • 2318

                              #15
                              Originally posted by whiltebeitel
                              Actually, you are right. The bendix drive would extend when the starter spins. The solenoid does exactly what you said. A broken bendix drive, could cause similar symtoms as missing teeth on the drive gear or flywheel.
                              OK that makes sense.

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