Lengthening/shortening tie rods

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  • BimmerToad
    E30 Mastermind
    • Sep 2004
    • 1537

    #1

    Lengthening/shortening tie rods

    I'm going to try a rough DIY alignment on my car to correct the massive toe out I have from swapping E30 M3 front suspension components, but I'm having trouble rotating the tie rods to lengthen them. I've removed the clamp and tried rotating the inner threaded sleave, but the threads are stuck. Is there any way to properly clamp the inner sleave, short of using vise grips? Is there anything else keeping me from adjusting the tie rods?
    San Diego BMW repair -> Jake @ www.littlecarshop.com Great guy :up:
  • kowalski
    E30 Mastermind
    • Jan 2005
    • 1791

    #2
    no they're probably just rusted on there... unless they're new, use some WD40 or liquid wrench or somthing of that nature and let it sit for a while, or get an allinment.

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    • BimmerToad
      E30 Mastermind
      • Sep 2004
      • 1537

      #3
      Sounds good, I'll let the rods soak in penetrating oil for a bit and maybe zap them with a heat gun.

      Should I use vise grips/pliers to adjust them?
      San Diego BMW repair -> Jake @ www.littlecarshop.com Great guy :up:

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      • Jordan
        R3V OG
        • Oct 2003
        • 12907

        #4
        vice grips will leave tool marks in the metal, but they should break them free.
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        • formula driver
          R3VLimited
          • Dec 2003
          • 2263

          #5
          Is it possible to do a proper alignment myself? Ive added new tie rods and adjusted them but there still off a bit. Can I do this properly myself?

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          • DaN
            E30 Fanatic
            • Dec 2003
            • 1265

            #6
            You can get it close, or to the point where it's decent to drive. But I would drop the money for someone to set the front toe with an alignment machine.

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            • Charlie
              kid tested, administrator approved
              • Oct 2003
              • 6686

              #7
              Rusted outer rods suck, as does replacing the inner ones, it's probably the best way to go though*.

              -Charlie

              *doing so at the moment.
              Swing wild, brake later, don't apologize.
              '89 324d, '76 02, '98 318ti, '03 Z4, '07 MCS, '07 F800s - Bonafide BMW elitist prick.
              FYYFF

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              • BimmerToad
                E30 Mastermind
                • Sep 2004
                • 1537

                #8
                Yeah, the passenger side rod was pretty badly rusted. I ended up taking some penetrating oil, a dremel wire brush, and a heat gun to the tie rods and finally got them loose with vise grips. There are some scratches on the metal, but I figure I'll replace the whole thing when I get a non-leaky rack.

                The car is more driveable now, but it's still a bit too darty on the freeway :shock: It's a good rough alignment though that will do until I get it properly aligned.
                San Diego BMW repair -> Jake @ www.littlecarshop.com Great guy :up:

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                • NickP
                  Wrencher
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 257

                  #9
                  On my car the inner and outer tie rods have indentations where you can fit a wrench.

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