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  • spyde25
    Advanced Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 157

    #16
    Originally posted by nickso
    the tubes are one piece IIRC so if they are not leaking at the top then they should be ok. the drains for both sides just empty into the sills. remove the speaker cover and speaker on each side (central locking box on one side too) and see if the water comes out, might be hard to see but you can pull the tubes out with a bit of force and have them sitting in the footwell if you need to.

    my money would be on rotten floors/bulkhead. even if the elephant trunk is clogged it shouldn't fill the car with water as the water can still get out the hole on the fusebox side. only if the path to that side of the heater box is clogged should water get in.
    Will try this tonight and report back. Rainy seasons is going to be here soon.
    my 88 325i sedan

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    • MC Hammered
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      • Jul 2008
      • 2076

      #17
      I had a seam between the fender and the body form a crack and water was seeping in and getting my passenger side footwell wet.

      You can do a search and find my thread with pictures and see if that helps you out.


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      • spyde25
        Advanced Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 157

        #18
        Originally posted by MC Hammered
        I had a seam between the fender and the body form a crack and water was seeping in and getting my passenger side footwell wet.

        You can do a search and find my thread with pictures and see if that helps you out.
        Thanks, this thread will help even though its not the elephant drain. My carpet is wet exactly how yours is. will follow your troubleshooting tonight.

        my 88 325i sedan

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        • nickso
          Noobie
          • Oct 2009
          • 13

          #19
          the drain pipes are more plastic than rubber. should be one piece though.

          if you have a seam like that near the drains that could be the problem.

          also if its rain water that's gettting in and not just water you have poured down the sunroof drains to specifically check them, i would be checking the heater box isn't rotten and letting water in behind the dash. i have some lovely pics of my one before i welded if they will help.

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          • spyde25
            Advanced Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 157

            #20
            Originally posted by nickso
            the drain pipes are more plastic than rubber. should be one piece though.

            if you have a seam like that near the drains that could be the problem.

            also if its rain water that's gettting in and not just water you have poured down the sunroof drains to specifically check them, i would be checking the heater box isn't rotten and letting water in behind the dash. i have some lovely pics of my one before i welded if they will help.
            Yes its the water i am pouring down the sunroof drains. It appears about 2 seconds later.

            In regards to heater box that area is dry on the passenger side. It is damp underneath the gas pedal. I am not going to worry about that tell after BMW performs the SB on the heater (i was surprised to that they will still cover it).
            my 88 325i sedan

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            • nickso
              Noobie
              • Oct 2009
              • 13

              #21
              Originally posted by spyde25
              Yes its the water i am pouring down the sunroof drains. It appears about 2 seconds later.

              In regards to heater box that area is dry on the passenger side. It is damp underneath the gas pedal. I am not going to worry about that tell after BMW performs the SB on the heater (i was surprised to that they will still cover it).
              fair enough, drains it is then. :)

              whats an SB? i find some of the USA e30 lingo strange :p

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              • spyde25
                Advanced Member
                • Nov 2010
                • 157

                #22
                Originally posted by nickso
                fair enough, drains it is then. :)

                whats an SB? i find some of the USA e30 lingo strange :p
                Sorry service bulletin or campaign was issued by BMW against a heating component on the E30 leaking coolant.
                my 88 325i sedan

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                • CarsSuck
                  E30 Modder
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 968

                  #23
                  SB is service bulletin.

                  I vaguely remember reading that the drain pipe can become disconnected if you try to clear it with too much air pressure or whatever. That would cause a leak in the A pillar further up.

                  I had a problem with the actual drain behind the front wheel, at the bottom of the fender. Stick a screw driver or coat hanger in there and clear out all the sand and dirt and shit.
                  --Will

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                  • CarsSuck
                    E30 Modder
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 968

                    #24
                    And im pretty sure those gaps in the floor pan seam are for draining water OUT if the car floods.
                    --Will

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                    • Erik j
                      E30 Modder
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 939

                      #25
                      There aer drain holes in the rockers, front and rear. They get pinched or clogged up. clean them out. Its in the pinch weld in the front and rear of the rockers.
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                      • spyde25
                        Advanced Member
                        • Nov 2010
                        • 157

                        #26
                        Fixxxeddd!!!

                        Well i have fixed it. will post pics of what i found tonight. The passengers side sunroof drain tube had chaffed so much at the first turn it had a 2 inch long hole in it. Replaced the whole tube and am drying out the car. Phew i always love fixing things.
                        my 88 325i sedan

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                        • spyde25
                          Advanced Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 157

                          #27
                          for those who wan to know what i did

                          I was fortunate enough to have the PO [COLOR=blue ! important][COLOR=blue ! important]garage[/COLOR][/COLOR] it so no real damage done on mine. steps listed below

                          Remove seat

                          Remove side speaker panel and speaker

                          Remove door threshold, the piece of black plastic that is in the door frame

                          Pull back carpet and air out and dry

                          Remove sun visor

                          Remove oh shit handle

                          Remove door molding

                          Pull down corner of headliner about 3 inches
                          You can now see the drain and the tube, feel around on tube as it enters in the pillar channel

                          If you cant feel a hole pour a small amount of water down the drain while watching the tube and channel area. It will be obvious if the tube is shot.

                          If tube is bad cut the clamp at the drain with a good pair of dykes

                          The hard part is removing the 30 year old stiff tube from the channel

                          You can pull it out from the bottom, reach in speaker hole and start working it out, will have to twist it some. The hold up is at the top where it enters the channel so you have to work it from both ends.

                          Best of luck.

                          P.S. i went to my local hardware and picked a new hose about 10 feet long and trimmed to fit. 5/8" ID.

                          One thing i forgot to mention is that i put a smaller hose inside the larger one at the bottom end and stuck that out of the drain hole. Just FYI
                          my 88 325i sedan

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                          • rjcaptsean
                            Member
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 51

                            #28
                            Grats on getting it fixed. But uh... pics or it didn't happen. :)

                            Actually I would just love to see the pics. I really need to get into mine and do the same repair I think. Water flows freely out underneath the rockers, but the carpet is still getting wet. Has to be a hole there somewhere.
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                            • spyde25
                              Advanced Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 157

                              #29
                              Pics!

                              Floor pulled up to dry out and pillar removed
                              Hose pulled out with visible hole due to chaffing at entrance to pillar channel

                              my 88 325i sedan

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                              • Beije
                                Noobie
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 17

                                #30
                                So what causes the chaffing?

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