brake fluid leaking from bottom of reservoir?

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  • TheArtofEuros
    Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 43

    #1

    brake fluid leaking from bottom of reservoir?

    hello, i'm a new e30 owner and was just curious to know if a brake fluid leak from the bottom of the reservoir was common? i did some research and it looks like there are 2 grommets that slide onto the reservoir and into the master cylinder.

    i bought the car, PO said there were no leaks...i noticed the next morning there was a small wet spot on my driveway. so i check fluids, all are fine. days goes by and i have the same small wet spot under my car right where the brake fluid reservoir is.

    i topped off the brake fluid yesterday morning and the small wet spot turned into a small puddle and i noticed my brake fluid level was between max and min...my brake fluid reservoir is kind of loose almost as if the grommets are beat. i noticed there was a decent amount of brake fluid right where the reservoir meets the master cylinder.

    is this a common problem? or are the grommets something that should be replaced after a certain amount of miles? judging from the way my upper rad hose looks (could be original) my bet is the grommets were never replaced.

    here's the car.




    thanks in advance, i love this car!

    1996 M3.1991 325ix
  • ssaylor
    Advanced Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 125

    #2
    I had a similar problem with my washer reservoir. The rubber grommets get hard, dry out and no longer make a seal. The brake fluid reservoir has the same setup, Check #2 and#3 here.
    http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...21&hg=34&fg=25
    It could be your master cylinder but you could be getting some funny brake action. I recommend you check these first.

    _________________________________
    1990 M3 Diamond Schwartz/Silver
    1989 325is Zinnoberrot/Black
    Things I've flown and driven

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    • jlevie
      R3V OG
      • Nov 2006
      • 13530

      #3
      That could be the grommets, reservoir, or on a car with a manual transmission the fluid line to the clutch master cylinder.
      The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
      Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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      • TheArtofEuros
        Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 43

        #4
        Originally posted by ssaylor
        I had a similar problem with my washer reservoir. The rubber grommets get hard, dry out and no longer make a seal. The brake fluid reservoir has the same setup, Check #2 and#3 here.
        http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...21&hg=34&fg=25
        It could be your master cylinder but you could be getting some funny brake action. I recommend you check these first.
        yes this is what i found when i did some research. i'll be ordering the grommets today. process of elimination i guess. i hope its just the grommets.

        Originally posted by jlevie
        That could be the grommets, reservoir, or on a car with a manual transmission the fluid line to the clutch master cylinder.
        the car is an auto, thanks for the input!

        on another note, valvoline makes this dot 3 & dot 4 brake fluid. says its meant to be used for cars that either. is this safe to use in the car temporarily until i can bleed the system and use actual bmw dot 4 fluid?

        1996 M3.1991 325ix

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        • jlevie
          R3V OG
          • Nov 2006
          • 13530

          #5
          Valvoline synthetic is is a DOT 4 fluid and is okay to use in place of BMW fluid.
          The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
          Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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          • TheArtofEuros
            Member
            • Aug 2011
            • 43

            #6
            jlevie, thanks for the input. the brake fluid bottle says "dot 3 & dot 4". not sure if you were thinking i was talking about 2 different bottles.

            1996 M3.1991 325ix

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            • jlevie
              R3V OG
              • Nov 2006
              • 13530

              #7
              Valvoline Synthetic brake fluid is marked as being compatible with DOT 3 & 4, but it is a DOT 4 fluid.
              The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
              Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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              • TheArtofEuros
                Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 43

                #8
                awesome! thanks for clearing that up.

                1996 M3.1991 325ix

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                • immajackuup
                  E30 Enthusiast
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1132

                  #9
                  dot 4 have a higher boiling point than dot 3.

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                  • TheArtofEuros
                    Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 43

                    #10
                    i knew the difference between 3 & 4, i just never saw them together. thanks!

                    1996 M3.1991 325ix

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                    • Huff
                      R3VLimited
                      • May 2006
                      • 2488

                      #11
                      By the way, make sure you don't get brake fluid on your new grommets (Try your very best at least) when installing them..

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                      • TheArtofEuros
                        Member
                        • Aug 2011
                        • 43

                        #12
                        thanks for the heads up. i plan on sucking all the fluid in the reservoir out with a turkey baster before i pull the reservoir from the master cylinder...dumb question, but won't the grommets get fluid on the anyway?

                        1996 M3.1991 325ix

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                        • Huff
                          R3VLimited
                          • May 2006
                          • 2488

                          #13
                          When you pull the reservoir, you'll see that the grommets only meet with the bottom of fluid (and that only partially). If you get elsewhere, the brake fluid will disolve them. Remember, brake fluid is extremely caustic...

                          I know this because a few years back I thought the same thing as you.. And one day brake fluid starting pouring out of my master cylinder a month after replacing those grommets. When I put my news in, they got some brake fluid splattered around them. Ate them up in a month.

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                          • TheArtofEuros
                            Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 43

                            #14
                            ^ good to know...thanks for the heads up. the grommets are on the way!

                            1996 M3.1991 325ix

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                            • 325isdan
                              Advanced Member
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 190

                              #15
                              Can someone confirm if you need to bleed the system after you replace the grommets?

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